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Best list I've ever read...lol
This is a discussion on Guide to NOT using FastTrack within the Tutorials forums, part of the Computers and Technology category; FastTrack is a network we've grown to hate, and for many, many good reasons. There was once a time where ...
FastTrack is a network we've grown to hate, and for many, many good reasons. There was once a time where FastTrack was a valuable resource for music and even movies/applications. This was around the time Morpheus had a clone client which connected (legally) to the FT network, around 2+ years ago. Fewer people used it back then, but it was still great for a quick P2P fix. Over the years the FastTrack network has deteriated rapidly and at this time is seen as nothing but a joke in the eyes of the more experienced file-sharer.
This thread lists the reasons FastTrack and its clients Kazaa and Grokster are so poorly looked upon now.
I often see people telling others that "K-Lite K++ Gold Platinum Kool Fast Limited Super Low-Fat Diety l337 Edition" is better than "K-Lite K++ Silver 5 Star Kool Fast Insane Sexy Edition". They are essentially telling you "Dog Food" is better to eat than "Cat Food". Hey, GUESS WHAT?! NO ONE NEEDS TO EAT DOG OR CAT FOOD WHEN ROAST STEAKS ARE JUST AS EASILY AVAILABLE FOR THE SAME PRICE.
But, 2.5 million+ people still use FastTrack, surely it must still be good?
2.5 million+ people still buy Britney Spears CDs. So, they're good too, right?
There is one simple reason to why so many people continue to use FastTrack despite of the overwealming amount of reasons not to -- IGNORANCE.
Being a human living in todays "MTV" society, I'm sure you can easily find more cases of human ignorance. These people are your average Kazaa user. If you've ever been to a Kazaa chatroom, you can instantly see just how braindead these people are. Don't worry, by taking notice of this thread you can rest assured you're nothing like them.
You also have the large proportion of people who come under the category "clueless". Rather than being out-right ignorant, this group of people simply know no better. Some know about other alternatives but for whatever reason stay with Kazaa (often falling into the "Ignorant" category), others would be willing to try anything else but simply don't know there IS any other (better) software to use. I hope this thread appeals to these kinds of people.
Lets get this straight - in the case of FastTrack - SIZE DOES NOT MATTER! 2.5 million users is not an excuse for you to use the network.
Come on, FastTrack MUST be good for something?!
Ok, lets see. If any of the following appeals to you, by all means continue to use FastTrack.
Music - Old 128kbps CBR mp3 encodes. 192kbps+ CBR mp3 sometimes available. Most popular music will be corrupted thanks to Kazaa's inability to fully hash files. All FastTrack clients have a serious flaw which for the past year the RIAA (or whoever else) has been exploiting. Unlike every other P2P client around today, Kazaa hashes only parts of each file you share. It goes something like this:
You have a 10MB mp3. Kazaa will hash (scan the file and give it a unique ID) the first few bytes of that file, skip a few, hash a few, skip a few, and so on. The RIAA simply fills the spaces Kazaa doesn't hash with silence or random noise. This leaves your mp3 completly ruined and unlistenable without changing the files hash. Does it work? Yes. You've got an extremly high chance of music downloaded via FastTrack being corrupted.
Rare music is extremly hard to find on FT.
As file-sharing has advanced, I have started to take ripping quality all the more seriously, also becomming interested in other compressed formats such as Ogg Vorbis and Musepack. If I go after an mp3 today, it has to prefrably be a variable (VBR) encode, such as ALT-PRESET-EXTREME, and of course encoded in LAME 3.9x or simila
r. FastTrack is your #1 stop for inferior sounding encodes, often encoded using hopelessly outdated encoders such as Old Xing.
Movies - New movies, no chance. If you don't mind waiting weeks for a very poor quality DivX re-encode of a poor first release CAM, Kazaa is for you. Don't expect finding the files will be easy when they eventually do reach the network. Most are renamed or another file in disguise.
Older movies - Very poor selection. Many fakes, many poor encodes.
Software / Apps - Looking for a quick and easy way to format your HDD? Open up Kazaa and download some random apps. FastTrack is a haven for viruses and trojans. Of course, many networks suffer from this problem but those other networks offer means of varifying content so the chances of receiving a virus are minimal. Forget about downloading software from FastTrack. Forget about new builds and betas.<hr>
<hr>In no particular order, here are the reasons why downloading files from FastTrack (or using Kazaa) is one of the most stupid things you can do on a computer:
Inferior & outdated software lacking in features we've become accustomed to in applications of today.
Client hashes only parts of files, leaving the network WIDE OPEN to exploits from Anti-FileSharing companies.
Poor selection of music. Don't even think about going after an album unless searching for each file individually and downloading a dozen different versions of songs encoded in different encoders appeals to you. And that's without even taking the amount of fakes/corrupted files into account.
Terrible selection of files overall. You won't find new releases on FastTrack, so don't kid yourself.
Fakes. There are more fake files on FastTrack than any other network out there (personal view) and very few ways to avoid them. Many placed by anti-P2P companies, many by other losers on the network with too much time on their hands.
Poorly encoded audio files. FULL of 128kbps encodes that sound simply awful. FYI - Kazaa restricted its users to sharing music encoded at 128kbps or below until around version 1.7.
Movies. Terrible selection of poorly encoded DivX files of CAMS, nothing new. See above for more info.
Awful search options. "Video/Audio/Software/Documents". There, I've just described Kazaa's search features down to the last detail.
Spyware. If you use an official, legal client from the "official" distributor, say goodbye to your PCs performance and privacy.
Adware. Forget about reasonable banner ads. Install an official client and you're in popup city.
Viruses/Trojans.
No significant updates. Clients have gone years without any noticeable or worthwhile updates. Your average KMD update would come down to a "cool new download button" and "better distribution of DRM infested AltNet content".
Sharman Networks doesn't care about you. Sharman are in this business to make cash, and lots of it. Both clients and the network haven't received updates in an eternity, simply because they can still attract enough people to the current batch of poor clients.
You can't get involved with the client/network. Sharman are simply not interested in your views for improvement - they want to make money from you.
AltNet / DRM locked content. A while ago people went crazy after finding out Kazaa had secretly installed a seperate network called "AltNet" on their computers without their knowledge. AltNet is another money-maker from Sharman who also wish to push DRM (Digital Rights Management) locked content through their network. These files are restricted to a number of plays and non-playable anywhere other than your PC, usually in Windows Media Player.
No privacy features. The official clients don't even feature an IP block list, which other unofficial clients/hacks give you.
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seless for distribution. Hoping to get something you produced out to the masses? You're better off investing in a carrier pigeon than putting up for download on FastTrack. The way the network is structured ensures the chances of anyone finding your file are minimal.
Sig2Dat only works for extremly well spread files.
Sharman have no respect for anyone attempting to improve user experience with their software. Creators of software such as "DietKaza" (a popular addon) and "Kazaa Lite" (a modified Kazaa client) which features an array of features and addons to improve the client and overall software experience have been threatened and their sites shut down. The same has applied for developers adding FastTrack support to their clients via giFT, such as KCEasy. Forced to remove the FT connectivity or go to court.
Unlike other software vendors, Sharman Networks and Grokster will personally go after anyone hosting "clean" versions of the software, such as Kazaa Lite on their sites. They won't be afraid to threaten your ISP or get your hosting permanently suspended. Many Pro-P2P sites have suffered downtime due to Sharman and Grokster contacting the hosting company.
RIAA/MPAA constant presence on the network. The network is filled with bots belonging to various Anti-FileSharing companies looking to dispatch complaints to your ISP and take you to court.
Majority of lawsuites directed at FastTrack users. Even after the amount of lawsuites thrown at their users (including the 12 year old girl), Sharman have done NOTHING to protect the privacy of their customers.<hr>
<hr>The one advantage the client (Kazaa) itself has going for it is ease-of-use. Search>Download is as complicated as Kazaa gets. But let me ask you, wouldn't you rather use slightly more "advanced" client which may take a little longer to get accustomed to than a client with so many crippling flaws?
It's time to face facts. FastTrack and Kazaa are P2P history and at todays standards are nothing more than a joke. There are 0 reasons left to be on the FastTrack network. It's time to move on in the world of file-sharing to a client and network that offers you the sort of features you like to see in your file-sharing experience. A client/network run by a person, or group of developers who listen to your ideas and not driven by money, perhaps?
Take a look around our forums for more ideas from other users. Here are a list of clients I'd consider to look into first after scrapping Kazaa/Grokster:
For Music:
Albums / Live Sets / Mixes:
SoulSeek - Currently the very best client out there for rare music and superior quality encodes. You'll find high quality albums and singles here.
eMule - Plenty of sources for archived (.zip'd, .rar'd) albums.
BitTorrent - Plenty of torrent sites containing albums and others dedicated to music.
DirectConnect - (DC++). Plenty of hubs serving up complete albums.
Singles:
Piolet - Easy to use client offering plenty of music content. Increased privacy features are set to be included in the next release.
WinMX - Good client for more popular music. If you make use of it's Opennap support via NapMX, you'll find a lot of rarer content.
Ares - A client and network becomming incresingly popular.
Gnutella and Gnutella 2 clients such as Shareaza also offer more music.
For Movies / Music Vids:
eMule - Full of just about every movie you can think of. Make use
of link sites to find files.
BitTorrent - Especially great for newer stuff. Make use of torrent sites to find files.
For applications:
Again, eMule and BT are great for this purpose.
...And that's just to name a few. If you find yourself in need of help at any point with these clients, feel free to post a question in the appropriate section here and we'll help you out.<hr>
Written by ToM on 29th June 2004 (Last update: 15th July 2004 - Added another fact to the list & added Ares as a recommended client for singles.
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Kudos to you
Best list I've ever read...lol
Yes very good job ToM
“Love is the only rational act.”
I haven't even installed Kazaa Lite on XP yet, I don't really plan to.
I use BitTorrent constantly for apps.
Thanks.. If you can think of any more truths I can add to the list please post and I'll add 'em.
NIce article Tom *is proud of you* hehe you really did present the facts in this article and summed it up quite well.
This is very well written and concise as well as accurate. The facts are true, and there are no lies in the post.
I would like to thank kazaa for one thing though and that it sort of paved the way for bittorent in my opinion.
I remmeber when you first downloaded the kazaa client, the executable for the kazaa program was very small, however it downloaded parts of the files from other users who were currently sharing the file, multi source.
Well I am just saying that this is how bittorent works, and the same concept sort of worked with kazaa.
go here and read more about what I am saying.
http://www.joltid.com/index.php/peercache/
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on a side note i would also like to say that the truth is kazaa is dead and has been for a while now. I would also like to add that if you have read this article you should post it to others, and inform them of this article. The reason why you should inform others is because consequently not a lot of users of kazaa are new to the p2p program and are not aware of how evil kazaa really is.
anyhoot reality sets in.
hmm
i gotta go now cuz i am weird
cheers
i heard there's prime cyber in the kl java but i guess you'll have to ask D about that
Awesome article though tom, you do us proud![]()
but I hate java.
How bout, using Kazaa Lite turns you into a fuckhead? just look at me.
Very cool, nice work.
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I agree with all of that except this entry.
"Poor selection of music. Don't even think about going after an album unless searching for each file individually and downloading a dozen different versions of songs encoded in different encoders appeals to you. And that's without even taking the amount of fakes/corrupted files into account."
Yes, the music blows on FastTrack if you prefer music beyond top 40 mainstream...no agrument there. But the issue of searching for each file individually is a problem on a lot of programs. I don't see how it's a FastTrack only thing.
WinMX, Piolet, Ares, LimeWire, etc. all are this way. If it wasn't for rar/zip albums on eDonkey, that too would be in the same. eDonkey and SoulSeek are the only two networks that offer easy album downloading.
I think Ares has the capablity to be good for full albums, and Bit Torrent has tons of full albums and often artists entire collections, I also find IRC, Warez Sites, and News Groups great sources for full albums (besides soul seek and ed2k)
“Love is the only rational act.”
Oh yeah? How so? I've been using Ares a lot recently and would love it if it were good for full albums. I know the developer just added collections to the network...is that what you mean?Originally Posted by JiMiThInG
If I can wait 1+ Years For Piolet to STILL be released obviously I dont mind waiting for 5 days for a movie to complete, Atleast you'll get it, and ATLEAST FastTrack Clients like, KaZaA, Imesh and the rest of the proggies update their *hit unlike mp2p, Promises and Promises but where's the Client? no where, you offer Screen Shots OMG! I love the performance, yeah right by looking at pictures doesnt get me or pretty much anyone excited, you guys dont even offer Betas, so before you rank on FastTrack first think about Mp2p and the other networks.
You shouldnt even SHOW screenshots, that gets people even more mad because why do you have the privalege to Beta Test but we dont?, I've been a member of mp2p for a long time that makes me feel like you dont give a damn about us, I'm not saying you Tom or anyone but Pablo, just pisses me off that you try to rank on FastTrack but you dont realise mp2p is worser.
Who Givez a Damn
Ok so, MP2P is "worser" because we have lack of updates... wait did you read all of those other reasons?Originally Posted by Captain_FLX
Sorry, but I have to take this personally. Pablo puts a ton of work into Piolet and mp2p. You may not see the progress, but its there. The reason the public doesnt have betas yet is because there are still bugs... major bugs that would probably cause an assload of complaints.
And as far as i can remember, pablo has been showing screenshots of new clients for a long time. Back when blubster beta 1 was going to come out, he would update the community with screenshots of the progress. Nobody ever complained then. Then people wanted the client more and more, so he released an incomplete buggy client... If you were around you know the rest of the story.
Bottom line is, there is no way MP2P is "worser" than fasttrack. The current client works fine, does it not? Sure, i would like to see more updates, but as long as whatever is out right now works, im not going to bitch.
And btw, i dont think tom was referring to taking a long time to download a movie, he was referring to the fact that most people make shit rips, or the fact that it takes awhile for new movies to even show up on fasttrack.
Jaba I've been since Blubster 1.2.3 so I was definately here! but hey atleast he released the client so we would stop bitching, so are you telling me that when he releases the client is going to be " BUG " Free? i dont think so that's why he should release Betas so he can Fix as many bugs as possible, you're making it sound like he hasnt released it because it's buggy and when it's released it's going to be Perfect.
Who Givez a Damn
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