New Idea

[Cassavus]

Ok, got to thinking again... :D

Ok say I'm downloading artist - song.mp3. Ok so I've got 4 different sources. It's just like in kazaa and other p2p apps. Except! The p2p program, as you connect to your sources, it encodes (or encrypts to say) the data being transfered, so that it out siders can't really see what your downloading or uploading. And as the file is put onto your HD, the p2p app decodes the information (or decrypts it to say).

Ok you may be thinking, this is kinda what Filetopia does. Let me give you a more in-depth example.


For each connection made to each source, saying we have 4 sources for this file. The connection itself is not encrypted or encoded, but the file is encoded or encrypted to say.

Like so, I'm downloading artist - song.mp3 from userx1. The chunk of the file that is being transfered from userx1 is 552 KB. The p2p takes that information, and encodes it, into a random set of numbers, letters, and symbols (ie. Yhd45700adfy*ha;hh79#jhqq4763) or whatever. Now as that information is encoded during the transfer, as it passes from that user to you it is also decoded or decrypted onto your HD to the temp file that is created, since you are downloading from multiple sources.

Now as I said, I'm downloading this file from 4 sources. Each source goes through this same process, except the chunk of data is encoded differently for each user. So userx2 could be sending 1008 KB of data and userx3 could be sending 126 KB of data. Each of them having a differently encoded chunk.

Now say I get done downloading from userx1, but as p2p programs do from time to time, they go back to that same user for more data for that same file. This is a new connection to this user. Now I'm downloading 84 KB of data from userx1. But the data is encoded differently. It's not the same as the last time I downloaded from this users.

Sorry if this is really confusing. If you don't understand, let me know and I'll try to explain it more.

If you do understand, what do you think?

[Asterix]

Ok fine here is something to think of...

Lets say there are RIAA spiders....they get on network and search for filename or say Artist XXXX....

And they find u as node.. and request a dld and u start uploading... then well noone else will know but RIAA will know that ur uploading file of a certain artist....

So....

[Fister]

The RIAA gets you when you upload from them, or they download from you. So if this is a network of strangers its not going to work, because while they may be interested in 'watching' downloads its easier for them to upload/download you. Furthermore, if you were to use an encryption system you all must use the same "key" to decrypt/encypt, and that becomes difficult. Hell I know people who were having a tough time figuring out how to swop 1 key once on waste :rolleyes:


But, I commend you on your idea :thumbsup: Keep em comming, just like Edison, he did things hundreds of times before he got them to work :cool:

[Asterix]

but one thing i have to admit....

If the user browsing is disabled by which noone can see what a specific user is sharing....

Then it becomes lot harder for anyone to list lot of files being shared coz they have to search repetitively with different keywords and try to find if that particular user has it or not... and it is not necessary that results will turnup frm that user every time.....

So the cost for RIAA to list large no. of files as shared on a particular users HDD will increase dramitically if user browsing is disabled...

[Fister]

Originally posted by Asterix
but one thing i have to admit....

If the user browsing is disabled by which noone can see what a specific user is sharing....

Then it becomes lot harder for anyone to list lot of files being shared coz they have to search repetitively with different keywords and try to find if that particular user has it or not... and it is not necessary that results will turnup frm that user every time.....

So the cost for RIAA to list large no. of files as shared on a particular users HDD will increase dramitically if user browsing is disabled...

Wont they just use a sniffer to get the ID even if user names/IP's are not associated with the file?

[Carrie]

What r u all talking about?:cry:

[Asterix]

Originally posted by fister
Wont they just use a sniffer to get the ID even if user names/IP's are not associated with the file?

But can they get a subpoena just based on ID arent they supposed show atleast a small list of files which are shared on the comp of the user???

Do u mean it is that easy???

[Zcool]

They have to have some sort of proof that you are sharing copyrighted files, they cant just subpoena anybody cause there must be somebody that only uses it leagally. The thing about turning off browsing users files is it does not allow them to catch you at once for sharing a large number of files, if they got one off you your ip would have to be stored until they had proof that you were sharing more than just that one.

There is a option to do this on the new kazaa lite and i can give you a reg hack to do if you are using the older version.

This is the second best method so far because it takes more time for them to catch you but if you have lots of different songs by the same artist it wouldnt take that much longer.

[Cassavus]

Well poo! I intend to figure out something!

*slams fist down

[The Boinker]

let us not forget, encryption is like steel vs. glass. it may not be see through, and it may be tough, but it can always be broken...

[Fister]

Originally posted by Asterix
But can they get a subpoena just based on ID arent they supposed show atleast a small list of files which are shared on the comp of the user???

Do u mean it is that easy???

You can be fined 150K/song

Technically, all they need is a sample of a single copywrited file they either got from you , or gave you, and your IP and the correct anglosaxon term is...your intercoursed!

Look at it kinda like this 1 song is like a gram of weed, not as big a deal as 1500 mp3's which are like a few keys of really bad hard drugs. Who are they going to target? Well, most likely the guy with alot of files...

btw: everything can be broken: Asterix, think back to first year lineer algebra (brings bck BAD memories eh?): Basic matrix were used during WW2 by spys as keys for codes, they were pretty easy to use and pretty hard to crack....