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webe123
11-20-2003, 07:34 AM
I guess most of you have been following the raid at Michael Jacksons Neverland ranch and his arrest warrant! Personally, I feel that this has been going on for too long! Most of his fans want to somehow believe he is innocent....but I have to tell you I have very strong doubts about that! When he gets on an interview and says HIMSELF that he is sleeping in bed with young boys....a warning flag is raised in my mind. Now you can have a loving, caring spirit for kids and even build them a place for the sick ones to be cared for like the Ronald McDonald house. But to SLEEP with them?? To me that is going a bit too far! Why didn't he just "tuck them in" and go sleep in his OWN BED?? Of course... the BEST alternative,if you were just there to be kind to children, would be to have the parents come and stay overnight with the children as a family and provide living quarters for them and just go a do things with the kids in the day time! You can have a ball, while at the same time, make sure you are protected from those kinds of rumors because THE PARENTS ARE WITH YOU AND THE KIDS!

Another thing that gets me, is an interview from a former detective that has been in Neverland ranch. From what he says, there is a surrveillance system in the hallway leading to Michael Jacksons bedroom....no other hallway or room has this system! At first, he thought it was for security reasons because of how well known the singer is, but then he got to looking at the layout and inside his bedroom, where he sleeps with the boys, is a alarm that goes off if anyone approaches his bedroom door! Now this former detective thought to himself....shouldn't the warning system be where the GUARD can see it? But it ISN'T ....he has his own personal warning system so that if anyone enters his bedroom, be it servant, music people, whoever, he CAN HAVE TIME TO REACT! (This could come in very handy so he is not ....caught with his pants down...so to speak!)

Now most people would be thinking to themselves, well, he IS very popular. Now would not a system like that protect him from intruders? The answer from that detective...not really! You see. Michael Jackson has some of the BEST security people in the world protecting him around the clock. Not to mention his own personal bodyguard. AND THE ALARM SYSTEM IS ONLY FOR THE BEDROOM! What if he was in the shower? or another room? then that system would be useless as far as security goes!

Just makes you wonder why a full grown man would even want to sleep with young boys! Now there is a possibility that what he says is true...that he is just trying to "relive" his youth through children....but to me, the things that he is doing with them leaves him open to speculation! If he really wanted to be innocent...why not just have the parents accompany him whenever he was with children like that? (of course that would mean leaving the kids where they OUGHT TO BE in THEIR OWN BED..WITHOUT HIM! Then if anybody made an accusation against him, there would be witnesses who could refute it! But the way it looks now, he just looks like a pervert! Just my thoughts...what are your opinions on this???
rainbowdemon
11-20-2003, 07:55 AM
I think he was guilty the last time. He just bought hid way oout of it. Guilty as charged this time too. And how many times did he get away with this? Arrest the man , take him to trial. And if he is convicted, then he should be punished accordingly. In a situation such as this, wealth should NOT have any bearing!
webe123
11-20-2003, 07:59 AM
Well AMEN to that brother!
rainbowdemon
11-20-2003, 09:00 AM
The latest news on this says Jackson is going to surrender.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20031120/ap_on_en_mu/michael_jackson_80
burningwitch
11-20-2003, 01:24 PM
:mad2: I think he is one sick dude and eight years in prison would not be long enough. Why would any parent in their right mind let their kid spend any time with him knowing his history? How could anybody be so stupid?
I wonder if they will be able to put him in general prison population. Even the murders don't like the baby rapiers. The Beat-It song could take on a whole new meaning.
:hit:
Fister
11-20-2003, 02:14 PM
Isn't it innocent until proven guilty :rolleyes:
rastagard
11-20-2003, 04:01 PM
Pedophilia is about the worst crime I can imagine. The fact that he is wealthy and can afford to pay millions in hush money does not diminish the crime.


I would also have to say that any parent that would put their child in an unsupervised situation with him should have their head examined also............
rainbowdemon
11-20-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Fister
Isn't it innocent until proven guilty :rolleyes:
In the court system, yes, that's the way it's supposed to be. In the court of public opinion, no!!
webe123
11-20-2003, 07:06 PM
May I also point out that the "court of public opinion" is where Michael Jackson had better show he is innocent!?? If he does not, there goes his career! Of course, most would argue that his career is not doing so well these days to begin with!
rainbowdemon
11-20-2003, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by webe123
May I also point out that the "court of public opinion" is where Michael Jackson had better show he is innocent!?? If he does not, there goes his career! Of course, most would argue that his career is not doing so well these days to begin with!
Both very good points! But that's even harder than proving innocence in a court of law!!
philgorp
11-20-2003, 07:42 PM
well, i said i wouldn't touch this one.
but here goes,,,,
hes is sick. he needs help. he needs to be "baker acted". you can only blame your parents for so much.
drwtwn312
11-20-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by burningwitch
Why would any parent in their right mind let their kid spend any time with him knowing his history? How could anybody be so stupid?

When me and my mom were talking about it we were wondering the exact same thing. Who would really let their kid's stay their it's just asking for trouble
Roadblock
11-20-2003, 08:50 PM
It does make one wonder, why a family would let their children stay with someone who has a cloudy reputation to begin with. Maybe, just maybe, they were hoping for an opportunity to try something like this. I am neither a huge fan or hater of Mr. Jackson. I just want to see justice done.

If he is innocent, then it is a travesty what the press etc is doing to him.

If he is guilty, I hope he gets all that he deserves.

I just hope our justice system can work this time, unlike recent sensational trials of certain celebrities. :(
Carrie
11-20-2003, 08:59 PM
I do not in any way Condone any type of pedophilia.

I decided I should just keep my opinion to myself
Big Chris
11-21-2003, 02:56 AM
Well being suspicious of mind, and the culture that started in America, and his reputation. I think it possible that some parents would leave kids with him. I think the last time this happened an undisclosed sum changed hands did it not and the wealth of the man in question is somewhat extensive, it would go a long way to sorting out anyone's finances for a good few years. I'm with RB, I neither like, nor dislike the man but, he will be a target for unscrupulous people who are greedy, and yes these people DO exist that would see this as an opportunity to make a large amount of money. One thing I have learned from the use of the internet is that truly sick people live in this world and no amount of belief in society or whatever is going to change it. It may abhorrent to us "normal" people but, this type of thing will happen
Carrie
11-21-2003, 06:51 PM
Ok I will say this much, I agree with Big Chris on this.
crackerjacker
11-21-2003, 07:23 PM
hmm hmm hmm hmmm hmmm
Thats a good point you made with regard to Micheal Jackson sleeping in his own bed. He can take care of kids and donate money and help them but from a distance.

There is no logic in the sense that he had to sleep in the same bed as the kids.

Now I dont know what to say except that this is an alledge accusation and as such the best thing to do is just see what happens.

However the thing that really gets to me is that Micheal Jackson has been accused of this before and I happen to come across a website that has some interesting information on this topic.

The website has a susposed 4 page detailed outline of what occured with that other individual who accused him of lewd acts. I will not say molestation because he was not charged the last time.

However this time around he is being official charged with molestation. But up into that point I think it would be wise to not to choose sides on this issue.

What I do know for a fact is that I am going to be very honest when a child accuses someone of such a crime of this magnitude there is going to be a certain amount of bias amongst the alledge suspect.

That is the way it is because a child is suspose to be protected so right off the bat in the eyes of everyone he is guilty. But who is anyone to judge?

But then again why should people not judge? The first time when he was accused he settled with the family of the alledge accuser for over 20 million dollars.

Then he did not learn from the last time that people are not what they are and they might set him up.

This time hes going to face the music and ultimately people will judge him with the facts.

anyway sad situation either way. Because although he made go to court and he is found innocent people will always have doubt in there minds as to weather or not trust Micheal Jackson.

later
-woot-
NitnayLion
11-21-2003, 07:38 PM
Well said, and with that being said I think we should close this thread.