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riscy
04-27-2007, 08:11 AM
Hi MM - not seen you for ages
The_Amber
04-27-2007, 10:34 AM
Bad mood...bad bad mood.
riscy
04-27-2007, 03:22 PM
I noticed, Amber, with the Will Shatner post - what's up??
Bad mood...bad bad mood.
mathmission
04-27-2007, 04:15 PM
TODAY'S MYSTERY QUOTE
QUOTE: "Time is the longest distance between two places."
HINT: (1911 – 1983), was a major American playwright and
one of the prominent playwriters in the twentieth century.
mathmission
04-27-2007, 04:15 PM
Hewlett Packard's first product was an automatic urinal
flusher.
mathmission
04-27-2007, 04:15 PM
Cranberry Jell-O is the only flavor that contains real
fruit flavoring.
mathmission
04-27-2007, 04:16 PM
In comic strips, the person on the left always speaks first.
mathmission
04-27-2007, 04:16 PM
An employee of the Alabama Department of Transportation
installed spyware on his boss's computer and proved that
the boss spent 10% of his time working (20% of time check-
ing stocks and 70% of the time playing solitaire). The
employee was fired, the boss kept his job.
mathmission
04-27-2007, 04:16 PM
The worst industrial accident occurred in Bhopal, India,
on December 3, 1984. A deadly chemical gas, leaked out
of Union Carbides pesticide factory, killing more than
2500 people outright and 6000 would later die from
injuries.
mathmission
04-27-2007, 04:17 PM
Wild rice is the official grain of the state of Minnesota.
For many years, most of the wild rice produced in the
world came from Minnesota's shallow lakes.
mathmission
04-27-2007, 04:17 PM
QUOTE: "Time is the longest distance between two places."
ANSWER: Tennessee Williams
Enforcer
04-27-2007, 06:39 PM
I like that Quote MM ^^. I will have to remember that for sometime.
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 08:24 AM
Some bands I recognise there BD ;)
I think I've posted them all here
Quite a few are from you
:dj:
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 08:25 AM
The Form of Government alone does not protect against Despotism
The People DO
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 08:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYc2qQQfOXs&eurl=
protest and they will say you are a terrorist
Thank you patriot act for destroying america
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 08:32 AM
ANTI-HATE LAWS
END FREE SPEECH
http://www.truthtellers.org/
I dont agree with their religious beliefs
but I like their politics
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 08:36 AM
Mysterious disappearance of US bees creating a buzz - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070407/ts_alt_afp/sciencenaturebeesus_070407020928)
Could it be... GMO crops.. maybe....
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 08:40 AM
People arrested for no blood for oil sign
meanwhile no one arrested for I love halliburton blood money signs across the street
The peace protestors got a permit... The other guys did not. But that is how it is now. You can get 47 years in prison now.
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 08:40 AM
Thats New Yorks finest
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 08:42 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070407/ts_alt_afp/sciencenaturebeesus_070407020928
Hate crime police raid 150 homes
Police target race crime
Community safety units were set up in 1999
Police investigating allegations of racism, homophobia and domestic violence have raided about 150 addresses across London.
At least 90 people have been arrested after officers from the Metropolitan Police's community safety unit took part in the dawn raids on Wednesday.
Twenty-seven people have been charged, including one for rape but most have been arrested on suspicion of making racist threats and of homophobic harassment.
The raids signal the start of a day of police action against "hate crime" - offences against people on the grounds of their race, faith, religion, disability, or sexuality.
People should not have to go through life being subjected to abuse because of who they are or what they believe in
Commander Cressida Dick
Posters in newspapers and on the Tube and trains urging victims of hate crime to come forward are running as part of a two-week campaign by the Metropolitan Police.
Commander Cressida Dick, director of the Diversity Directorate, denied the operation was simply a publicity stunt.
She said: "We want the offenders who hate, hurt and harm others to know the Met will do everything in its power to find them out and put a stop to their crime.
"People should not have to go through life being subjected to abuse because of who they are or what they believe in."
The raids will be followed up by a day of activities to raise awareness of the Met's community safety units, which deal with hate crime.
Officers will take a mobile hate-crime reporting centre into the heart of London's gay community in Old Compton Street, Soho.
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 08:44 AM
If you say fag at a resturaunt to a buddy you may be on the list of people raided tonight in thee EU
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 10:27 AM
Mark Twain said, “If you don’t read the newspaper, you’re uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you’re misinformed."
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 10:39 AM
Do yourself and everyone a favor go to google video or youtube and search on
Barry Zweiker
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 10:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7qNBmwX1tM
heres a short one by him
riscy
04-28-2007, 11:20 AM
that clip is from an hour long show isn't it? I watched it ages ago, very interesting.Do yourself and everyone a favor go to google video or youtube and search on
Barry Zweiker
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 03:17 PM
that one is only ten minutes long but if you google video his name. THe Great Conspiracy (the one you probably watched) and his new one THe Great Deception. Both about an hour and twenty minutes long.
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 03:18 PM
O’Reilly Attacks MediaMatters for Accurately Quoting Him (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/28/oreilly-attacks-mediamatters-for-accurately-quoting-him/)
zombiedepot zombiedepot submitted, made popular 1 hour 26 min ago (www.crooksandliars.com)
In a "Factor Fiction" segment Wednesday night, Keith highlighted how Bill O'Reilly attacks MediaMatters for committing the mortal sin of quoting him accurately. More…
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 03:18 PM
NY Police Report Bomb to Frame Activist as Terrorist (CAUGHT ON VIDEO) (http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/270407_false_bomb_threat.html)
CitizenAaron CitizenAaron submitted, made popular 1 hour 36 min ago (www.jonesreport.com)
Two persons identifying themselves as New York police officers interrupted a 9/11 Truth demonstration-- on a public sidewalk in front of the new WTC 7 Building-- to intimidate free speech, stating "Larry [Silverstein] doesn't want to hear it," before accusing We Are Change founder Luke Rudkowski of having a bomb and that his cell phone was "a gun." More…
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 03:19 PM
Ohio 04 Election Audit Says Diebold Vote Database May Have Been Corrupted
positron positron submitted, made popular 2 hours 6 min ago (http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/04/diebold_vote_da.html)(blog.wired.com)
Vote totals in two separate databases that should have been identical had different totals. Tables in the database contained elements that were missing date and time stamps that would indicate when information was entered. Entries that did have date/time stamps showed a January 1, 1970 date. MS says the database engine is vulnerable to corruption
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 03:20 PM
Inflation, Dow 13K and the Second Great Depression (http://bullnotbull.com/archive/dow13k-1.html)
tgermer tgermer submitted, made popular 9 hours 46 min ago (bullnotbull.com)
This article points out what today ’s younger generation has already long known: Simply surviving in this hyper competitive world is harder than ever, to say nothing of getting ahead.
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 03:21 PM
Senior Bush official linked to escort service resigns. (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/27/senior-bush-official-linked-to-escort-service-resigns/)
aterkel aterkel submitted, made popular 10 hours 6 min ago (thinkprogress.org)
"Deputy Secretary of State Randall L. Tobias submitted his resignation Friday, one day after confirming to ABC News that he had been a customer of a Washington, D.C. escort service whose owner has been charged by federal prosecutors with running a prostitution operation."
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 03:22 PM
CNN Bans Senator Gravel from next debate! (http://www.nhinsider.com/press-releases/2007/3/20/gravel-dismisses-cnn-wmur-tv-and-union-leader-statement.html)
patr84 patr84 submitted, made popular 18 hours 3 min ago (www.nhinsider.com)
Yesterday, former Senator Mike Gravel stole the show at the Democratic debates with his humor and honesty about America's foreign policy. Now, the mainstream media is trying to pretend he and his alternative viewpoints don't exist. Fight the status quo's censorship and make sure candidates like Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, and Ron Paul get heard!
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 03:24 PM
Democratic Candidate Debate:Gravel - “Some Of These People Frighten Me” Add as My Number One
(http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/26/democratic-candidate-debategravel-some-of-these-people-frighten-me/)
onebadapple onebadapple submitted, made popular 23 hours 5 min ago (www.crooksandliars.com)
who is he? Me likey.
BakedDon
04-28-2007, 03:25 PM
If you have been following along you know the site
Digg.com
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:02 PM
TODAY'S MYSTERY QUOTE
QUOTE: "We are the first nation in the history of the world
to go to the poorhouse in an automobile."
HINT: American cowboy humorist, Radio commentator, Author
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:02 PM
A snail can crawl over the edge of a razor without cutting
itself.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:02 PM
The plant hydrangeas only produce pink or white flowers
in an alkaline soil, and blue flowers in an acidic soil.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:02 PM
Humans consume 90 million metric tons of animal protein
from the Ocean every year.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:03 PM
They don't crawl in your ear!
Earwigs vary in size from 1/2-1" in length, they are brown
to black in color. Species may be winged or wingless. Only
a few species are good fliers. The body terminates in a
pair of forceps. These forceps or pincers are the earwig's
most distinctive characteristic. The forceps are used in
capturing prey and mating.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:03 PM
Underwater Bath
An area of the Atlantic Ocean floor, known as the mid-ocean
rift, is full of cracks, sometimes 2,400 meters deep. As a
result, water seeps through the earth's crust down to its
molten core. This heats the water, causing it to rise back
up to the ocean. When it hits the cold ocean water, a cloud
is formed. These hot-springs, called hydrothermal vents,
can reach 371 degrees Celsius.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:03 PM
If all the oceans were to evaporate, the salt left behind
would cover the entire planet with a layer of salt that
was 50 meters (half a soccer field) thick.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:04 PM
QUOTE: "We are the first nation in the history of the world
to go to the poorhouse in an automobile."
ANSWER: Will Rogers
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:04 PM
TODAY'S MYSTERY QUOTE
QUOTE: "Time is the longest distance between two places."
HINT: (1911 – 1983), was a major American playwright and
one of the prominent playwriters in the twentieth century.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:04 PM
Hewlett Packard's first product was an automatic urinal
flusher.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:05 PM
Cranberry Jell-O is the only flavor that contains real
fruit flavoring.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:05 PM
In comic strips, the person on the left always speaks first.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:05 PM
An employee of the Alabama Department of Transportation
installed spyware on his boss's computer and proved that
the boss spent 10% of his time working (20% of time check-
ing stocks and 70% of the time playing solitaire). The
employee was fired, the boss kept his job.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:05 PM
A horrible way to go
The worst industrial accident occurred in Bhopal, India,
on December 3, 1984. A deadly chemical gas, leaked out
of Union Carbides pesticide factory, killing more than
2500 people outright and 6000 would later die from
injuries.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:05 PM
Wild rice is the official grain of the state of Minnesota.
For many years, most of the wild rice produced in the
world came from Minnesota's shallow lakes.
mathmission
04-30-2007, 03:05 PM
QUOTE: "Time is the longest distance between two places."
ANSWER: Tennessee Williams
BakedDon
04-30-2007, 07:36 PM
Prince of Terror (http://video.google.com/url?docid=-2497496655514007715&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=truthtold&vidurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D3VccBixch10&usg=AL29H220vFz7jl6JewOWDQMWgu7ZR9Uurg)
Let’s talk about the world’s most hated/
Bin Laden the terrorist may be exaggerated/
So what you see on the news is fabricated/
TruthTold spit facts now let me elaborate it/
Before you know about September 11/
Osama Bin Laden born 1957/
In Riyadh, Saudi Arabia to his mother and father/
Mohammed Awad Bin Laden/
Who moved to Saudi Arabia in 1930/
Was a very poor man but his will was worthy/
Thirsty for chance to provide for his kids/
Which he raised with morals and disciplined with religion/
And then, Mohammed got a chance so broad/
Opportunity to build palaces for King Saud/.
(And) he impressed the King and became real close/
To the Royal Family a good friend to most/
Then he convinced King Saud - to step down/
And allow/ Faisal/ to gain the crown/
But when King Saud left the banks were broke/
So Mohammed paid all the wages for the folks-
Of the whole kingdom out of his own pursue/
And got appointed the minister of pubic works/
Eventually becoming the richest family in the land/
Only second to the Royal Fam/
And he proceeded to raise his kids spiritually/
But he died when Osama was only 13/
Now Osama got married at age 17/
And when to school and received a decree/
In Public Administration in 1981/
Around the same time Soviets wit guns/
Were invading Afghanistan/
They wanted the power, wanted the oil, they wanted the land/
"Sounds familar?" we know the cause/
Osama heard bout the wars and wanted to get evolved/
So he went there brought construction machines/
To build training camps for the regime/
And there was somebody else who did not-
Want Russia to win so began to plot/
And on March 8, 1985/
Ronald Reagan sent the CIA inside/
To assist the Afghans and teach'em to fight/
Teach'em how to make bombs and plan a strike/
And gave'em money – ha’ you think this is low?
This is the kind of shit they dont want'cha know/
So in 86 Osama the US fighter/
Built more camps and gave birth to Al'Qaeda
With the help of the CIA and US funds/
We supplied the trainers, supplied the guns/
Supplied the recruits and taught'em urban terrorism/
So he wasn’t a bad guy - he was an ALLY/
Yeah The US even recruited for Al'Qaeda/
Right here in the states and sent'em more fighters/
Recruited at the al Kifah Refugee Center -
In New York and then they were sent to Virginia/
To Camp Perry/ the CIA training facility/
Taught sabotage skills and paramilitary -
Techniques and this program was called/
Operation Cyclone and kept in the dark/
So when you see Bin Laden holding his AK/
Just remember that he worked for CIA/
And he would attack, bomb, kill, or shoot/
Whoever the United States wanted him to!
So now the US could secretly attack a nation/
Through the use of the Al'Qaeda Foundation/
They got $6 billion from me and you/
Between 1978 and 92'/
And in May 2001 the Secretary of State -
Gave'em $43 Million in aid/
There's a game being played that's easy to lose/
Especially when you don’t even know the rules/
It's funny how the US trained the terrorists/
To fight and defend/ against the Soviets/
But then 2003 (they) did the same thing/
I hope you understand - the game being played/
You can’t believe everything you see/
Everything you hear/ everything you read/
TruthTold muthafucka - spittin the facts/
Knowledge is power and now I'm giving it back . . .
BakedDon
04-30-2007, 10:01 PM
Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid
Associated Press | April 30, 2007
Harry R. Weber
ATLANTA — Two police officers pleaded guilty Thursday to manslaughter in the shooting death of a 92-year-old woman during a botched drug raid last fall. A third officer still faces charges.
Officer J.R. Smith told a state judge Thursday that he regretted what had happened.
"I'm sorry," the 35-year-old said, his voice barely audible. He pleaded guilty to manslaughter, violation of oath, criminal solicitation, making false statements and perjury, which was based on claims in a warrant.
Former Officer Gregg Junnier, 40, who retired from the Atlanta police in January, pleaded guilty to manslaughter, violation of oath, criminal solicitation and making false statements. Both men are expected to face more than 10 years in prison.
In a hearing later in federal court, both pleaded guilty to a single charge of conspiracy to violate a person's civil rights, resulting in death. Their state and federal sentences would run concurrently.
The charges followed a Nov. 21 "no-knock" drug raid on the home of Kathryn Johnston, 92. An informant had described buying drugs from a dealer there, police said. When the officers burst in without warning, Johnston fired at them, and they fired back, killing her.
Fulton County prosecutor Peter Johnson said that the officers involved in Johnston's death fired 39 shots, striking her five or six times, including a fatal blow to the chest.
He said Johnston fired only once through her door and didn't hit any of the officers. That means the officers who were wounded likely were hit by their own colleagues, he said.
Junnier and Smith, who is on administrative leave, had been charged in an indictment unsealed earlier Thursday with felony murder, violation of oath by a public officer, criminal solicitation, burglary, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, and making false statements.
The third officer, Arthur Tesler, also on administrative leave, was charged with violation of oath by a public officer, making false statements and false imprisonment under color of legal process. His attorney, William McKenney, said Tesler expects to go to trial.
Tesler, 40, is "very relieved" not to face murder charges, McKenney said, "but we're concerned about the three charges."
Both men could have faced up to life in prison had they been convicted of murder. Instead, Junnier will face 10 years and one month and Smith 12 years and seven months. No sentencing date was immediately set, and the sentences are contingent on the men cooperating with the government.
The deadly drug raid had been set up after narcotics officers said an informant had claimed there was cocaine in the home.
When the plainclothes officers burst in without notice, police said, Johnston fired at them, and they fired back.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Yonette Sam-Buchanan said Thursday that although the officers found no drugs in Johnston's home, Smith planted three bags of marijuana in the home as part of a cover story.
The case raised serious questions about no-knock warrants and whether the officers followed proper procedures.
Atlanta Police Chief Richard Pennington asked the FBI to lead a multi-agency probe. He also announced policy changes to require the department to drug-test its nearly 1,800 officers and require top supervisors to sign off on narcotics operations and no-knock warrants.
To get the warrant, officers told a magistrate judge that an undercover informant had told them Johnston's home had surveillance cameras monitored carefully by a drug dealer named Sam.
After the shooting, a man claiming to be the informant told a television station that he had never purchased drugs there, leading Pennington to admit he was uncertain whether the suspected drug dealer actually existed.
The Rev. Markel Hutchins, a civil rights activist who serves as a spokesman for Johnston's family, said the family was satisfied with Thursday's developments.
"They have never sought vengeance. They have only sought justice," he said.
Hutchins said the family is considering civil action against the police department.
"I think what happened today makes it very clear that Ms. Johnston was violated, that her civil rights were violated," he said.
BakedDon
04-30-2007, 10:03 PM
Freeway Collapse Bears No Relation To WTC Buildings
Stop The Lie | April 30, 2007
Comment: Debunkers are already using this to attack the 9/11 truth movement in claiming that this explains the collapse of the towers and WTC 7. Syndicated radio host Neil Boortz attacked Alex Jones this morning, claiming that this refutes the controlled demolition hypothesis. In reality, the freeway collapse is completely different and the comparison is ridiculous.
I can already hear defenders of the official account screaming "See, fire can cause a steel structure to collapse-the bridge collapsed!"
Comparing the circumstances surrounding the fire and subsequent partial collapse of this bridge to the circumstances surrounding the fires and subsequent complete collapse of the towers and WTC 7 is flawed from end to end. This fact should be obvious to most people; but let's point out a few things just in case they weren't already noticed.
1. This was an open air environment where flames were able to reach their absolute maximum temperature; white-hot and shooting upwards of 200 feet in the air.
2. Those 200 foot flames were acting on a single support truss that was fastened to the two columns pictured here. That truss (and the connectors that fastened it to the columns) represents a small fraction of the steel that would have been found on a single floor of the towers or WTC 7. So again, far more heat focused on a single truss and no way to redistribute the load once that truss was weakened.
3. You'll notice that despite the intense fires ability to weaken the truss and connectors that there is NO mention of molten metal in the debris. Also, unlike the debris of the towers and WTC 7, it's not likely we're going to hear anything about thermate (specifically used to destroy steel columns) in the bridge debris.
4. You'll notice that the concrete roadway that "pancaked down" on the roadway below did not cause the lower freeway to collapse. Nor has the concrete disintegrated into a fine powder.
5. You'll notice the columns were not torn down by the collapse, nor did they evaporate into thin air, rather they are still standing (having only lost the the truss and connectors that held the roadway to them.)
So to quickly recap:
White-hot 200 foot flames acting on a single truss (and no ability to redistribute the load once weakened.)
No molten metal and certainly no thermate found
No column failure
No evaporation / pulverization of concrete
No "pancake collapse"
-Ending with a paragraph from The 1-hour Guide to 9/11.
For the record, few in the scientific community doubt that it's theoretically possible for a building to experience failure if it is subjected to devastating heat for a sufficient period of time. And additional factors like no fire-proofing, no sprinkler systems, insufficient steel to "bleed off" heat or inferior construction greatly increase the possibility. However, what is "doubted" (or more accurately; considered downright impossible) is that such a failure would resemble anything like what was witnessed on 9/11. -Gradual, isolated, asymmetrical failures spread out over time; perhaps -simultaneous disintegration of all load bearing columns (leaving a pile of neatly folded rubble a few stories high) -no way.
We stand by that assertion. For a more detailed argument see Fire Initiated Collapse - Primary Arguments Against.
BakedDon
04-30-2007, 10:05 PM
two foot by five foot structural steel columns are much different than rod.
just look into welding
you have to heat columns
BakedDon
04-30-2007, 10:07 PM
When you watch the news ask yourself Who Benefits?? Is this Product Placement?? Or similar Propaganda Placement??
BakedDon
04-30-2007, 10:12 PM
Tony Snow Returns: ‘There Has Been No Attempt To Try To Link Saddam to 911
populist populist submitted, made popular 34 minutes ago (thinkprogress.org)
White House Press Secretary Tony Snow returned to the job this morning and hit the ground running. In his first interview with CBS ’s Early Show, Snow declared that the White House never tried to link Iraq and September 11.
BakedDon
04-30-2007, 10:13 PM
Ex-CIA analyst: Forged 'yellowcake' memo 'leads right back to' Cheney (http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ExCIA_analyst_Forged_yellowcake_memo_leads_0430.ht ml)
JoshCatone JoshCatone submitted, made popular 1 hour 24 min ago (rawstory.com)
Appearing on MSNBC's Tucker Carlson show, Ray McGovern who served in the CIA for twenty-seven years, said, "the [forged] memo leads right back to the doorstep of the Vice President of the United States." He also says he has evidence to prove it. (With video.)
BakedDon
04-30-2007, 10:18 PM
The Top Seven Politicians Put In Charge of Something They Suck At (http://nomorequo.blogspot.com/2007/04/top-seven-politicians-put-in-charge-of.html)
Blakovitch Blakovitch submitted, made popular 4 hours 30 min ago (nomorequo.blogspot.com)
With the recent sex scandal, it's time to take a look back at the Bush Administration's greatest hits. Here's a list of the top seven politicians put in charge of something they suck at doing (with video evidence).
mathmission
05-01-2007, 10:21 AM
TODAY'S MYSTERY QUOTE
QUOTE: "There are certain themes of which the interest is
all-absorbing, but which are too entirely horrible for
the purposes of legitimate fiction."
HINT: Author of "The Premature Burial"
mathmission
05-01-2007, 10:21 AM
The peanut is NOT a nut! It's a legume and a member of
the pea family.
mathmission
05-01-2007, 10:21 AM
Peanut butter was first introduced to the general public
at the 1904 World's Fair.
mathmission
05-01-2007, 10:21 AM
People in the U.S. eat, on average, 7 pounds of peanuts
and peanut products per person, per year.
mathmission
05-01-2007, 10:21 AM
Preserves currently represent 34% of the total sales in
the overall fruit spread category (jams, jellies, preserves,
fruit spreads, marmalades). Jams make up 22% of sales with
jelly sales close behind at 21% of sales. Fruit spreads are
17% of sales, and marmalades make up the rest of the cate-
gory with 5.4% of sales. Annual retail sales for jams,
jellies, fruit spreads and preserves are approximately $632
million.
mathmission
05-01-2007, 10:21 AM
Grape is used for P,B & J
The most popular are grape jelly and strawberry jam. They
are followed by grape jam, red raspberry jam, orange marm-
alade, apple jelly, apricot jam, peach jam and blackberry
jam, in that order. An additional 28 flavors are commonly
produced that account for less than 20 percent of total
production.
mathmission
05-01-2007, 10:22 AM
Strawberry Preserves...YUM!
Jelly is more popular among kids, while preserves are
favored by adults. In fact, the average child will eat
1,500 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches by high school
graduation. Consumers who regularly purchase jam, jelly
and preserves usually buy two flavors to have at home.
And at home, adults and children eat the products with
equal frequency.
mathmission
05-01-2007, 10:22 AM
QUOTE:"There are certain themes of which the interest is
all-absorbing, but which are too entirely horrible for
the purposes of legitimate fiction."
ANSWER: Edgar Allan Poe
mathmission
05-02-2007, 07:13 AM
Post...
riscy
05-02-2007, 07:21 AM
man
riscy
05-02-2007, 07:21 AM
oops - wrong thread ;)
riscy
05-02-2007, 07:21 AM
I thought I was in the word association thread there for a second.
mathmission
05-02-2007, 09:17 AM
Hehe
mathmission
05-02-2007, 09:17 AM
Hope things are going well with you Riscy
BakedDon
05-02-2007, 06:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/uBm9ZyIg3I0
Tv is not really that good for you, in case you were not sure
Why Do You Think They Call It PROGRAMMING ??????
BakedDon
05-02-2007, 06:25 PM
TV error replaces Disney with porn
Thursday May 3 05:00 AEST
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=264810
A red-faced US cable television company has apologized after a Disney cartoon was replaced with a hardcore porn film.
Comcast subscribers were left shocked when the "Handy Manny" cartoon on Playhouse Disney was interrupted by an X-rated movie, the New York Daily News reports.
Shocked Paul Dunleavy was watching the cartoon with his five-year-old son when the porn kicked in.
"It was two people doing their thing, it was full-on and it was disgusting," he said.
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"It wasn't something you'd expect to see on Cinemax, never mind Disney."
Comcast has confirmed it was responsible for the error that affected sections of New Jersey.
"We had an isolated issue in a local New Jersey facility, we immediately detected the issue and it was corrected promptly," Comcast spokesman Fred DeAndrea said.
Disney's Playhouse features cartoons geared towards youngsters between the ages of three to six.
BakedDon
05-02-2007, 06:27 PM
These People Frighten Me"
The Candor of Mike Gravel
By MARGARET KIMBERLY
During the first Democratic presidential debate a little known candidate, former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel, ended up with one of the most memorable lines of the evening:
"And I got to tell you, after standing up with them, some of these people frighten me--they frighten me. When you have mainline candidates that turn around and say that there's nothing off the table with respect to Iran, that's code for using nukes, nuclear devices.
"I got to tell you, I'm president of the United States, there will be no preemptive wars with nuclear devices. To my mind, it's immoral, and it's been immoral for the last 50 years as part of American foreign policy."
Of the eight candidates on that stage in South Carolina, only Gravel and Congressman Dennis Kucinich will say that there is no reason for the American people to incinerate the Iranian people with nuclear weapons.
When Senator Barack Obama repeated the lie that Iran is on the verge of attaining nuclear capability only Kucinich would call him out. He politely said that Obama's assertions were in dispute.
Obama: I think it would be a profound mistake for us to initiate a war with Iran.
But, have no doubt, Iran possessing nuclear weapons will be a major threat to us and to the region.
Kucinich: (OFF-MIKE)
Obama: I understand that, but they're in the process of developing it. And I don't think that's disputed by any expert. They are the largest state sponsor of terrorism...
Kucinich: It is disputed by...
Obama: ... Hezbollah and Hamas.
Kucinich: It is disputed.
Obama: And there is no contradiction, Dennis, between...
Kucinich: It is disputed.
Obama: Let me finish.
Kucinich would have been correct if he had called Obama a liar. Gravel is right, most of the Democrats are very frightening indeed.
This debate was a very sad foreshadowing of what is to come before Election Day in November 2008. The corporate media will play a dominant role in choosing the nominee, by sponsoring debates, and by framing the way candidates are seen by the public. The sponsor of this debate, MSNBC, is a subsidiary of General Electric, a defense contractor. Gravel said it best when he answered a ridiculous question about America's need to label other countries as enemies. "The military industrial complex not only controls our government, lock, stock and barrel, but they control our culture." They also control presidential debates.
The candidates are not just scary, they are gutless. Moderator Brian Williams asked for comments on Rudy Giuliani's statement that only Republicans will keep the country safe. No one gave the most obvious answer. The terror attacks on 9/11 happened on the Republican's watch.
George W. Bush presided over the killing of 3,000 Americans and never demanded resignations from his cabinet and prevented any meaningful investigation from taking place. Now his approval rating is a dismal 28% but you wouldn't know it from the frightening and frightened Democrats.
None of the other candidates support Kucinich's effort to impeach Vice President Cheney. Impeachment is the only way to prevent further wars of aggression and it is the only way to expose the lies and manipulations of the Bush administration. Impeachment is the only way to stop further erosions of civil liberties. It is the only way to discredit Republicans enough to insure a Democratic victory in 2008.
Kucinich has a hard row to hoe. There is ample evidence that there are grounds to impeach Cheney on the charges Kucinich has outlined in his articles of impeachment, namely that he manipulated the intelligence to make the case for invading Iraq.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said that impeachment is "off the table." Her explanations for eschewing impeachment are nonsensical. "And frankly, for impeachment, George W. Bush is just not worth it. We have great work to do for the American people." Pelosi was not on the debate stage, but she represents everything that makes the rest of them so scary.
Democratic fund raising success is a sign that the high and mighty have concluded that the party's time has come. Yet skepticism is always in order. If anyone can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, it is the Democratic party.
If the Democrats do win, what will they do with victory? Unless Dennis Kucinich becomes president we have no reason to believe that much change is in the offing. We may have universal health care, but it will subsidize health insurance companies. American troops will still be in Iraq and the Patriot Act will still be on the books. Bush will be gone but Bushism will still be with us.
That is the truly frightening thing about the Democrats. The candidates who are flush with campaign cash and press attention are the most likely to bring little or no change to American politics. In November 2008, it seems that Democrats will lose, no matter what.
Margaret Kimberley is an editor and senior columnist for the Black Agenda Report. Her Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR. Ms. Kimberley lives in New York City, and can be reached via e-Mail at Margaret.Kimberley(at)BlackAgandaReport.Com. When sending email, please remember to replace the (at) with @.
from counterpunch.org
BakedDon
05-02-2007, 06:28 PM
Euro Rules 'Could Outlaw 40 Dog Breeds'
Body:
DOG breeders have warned that some of Britain's best-loved breeds including dachshunds, bulldogs and basset hounds could disappear because of new and potentially far-reaching government animal-welfare measures.
The Scotsman has learned that ministers in Edinburgh and London are preparing to ratify a controversial Europe-wide treaty that could set strict limits on the breeding and handling of animals.
The European Convention on the Protection of Pet Animals is enthusiastically supported by animal-welfare groups, and rejected by dog breeders, who say it would impose a "sweeping" curb on their activities.
After years of prevarication and hesitation, private talks have been taking place between the Scottish Executive and the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) aimed at ratifying the treaty. Because animal welfare is devolved, Scottish ministers must agree before the UK can sign up to the accord.
The convention states that animal breeders must be held accountable for any "anatomical, physiological and behavioural characteristics which are likely to put at risk the health and welfare of either the offspring or the female parent".
Annexes to the document set down precise limits on physical characteristics like the length of a dog's back relative to its legs, the length of its ears and the dimensions of its head and nose.
Dog breeders fear that the treaty's terms are so broad that it would effectively forbid the breeding of distinctive types of dog because their defining characteristics could be seen as risking their welfare.
According to the Scottish Kennel Club, ratifying the treaty would mean that anywhere between 30 and 40 breeds would effectively be outlawed. Some distinctive breeds of cat including the Siamese and Persian could also be affected.
"Many breeds would have so many restrictions put on them that they would effectively cease to exist," said Jean Fairlie, parliamentary liaison officer for the Scottish Kennel Club.
"The convention is too broad, too sweeping - it fails to take account of scientific developments, and the work the Kennel Club and breeders have done since it was drawn up to eliminate some mutations and health problems while maintaining the consistency of the breeds."
Among the convention's most enthusiastic supporters is Advocates for Animals, an Edinburgh-based campaign group.
"Pedigree dogs are bred for their appearance rather than for their good health, which often suffers as a result. They are being 'designed' to conform to ideal 'breed standards' which often involve exaggerated and unnatural physical characteristics that are detrimental to the dogs 'health and welfare," said Ross Minnett, the group's director.
Ratifying the convention would "substantially modify extreme breed standards and limit the degree to which pedigree dogs are bred to be intentionally deformed in a quest to produce 'the perfect dog'," he said. "But any claims that this convention would lead to the end of pedigree breeds are scaremongering nonsense."
Beverley Cuddy, the editor of Dogs Today magazine, said she thought breeders were exaggerating the impact ratification would have. "All it means is that breeders would have to put the health of the dogs first instead of their appearance," she said.
"The Kennel Clubs say they're setting up new rules and breed standards that mean [ratification] wouldn't be needed, but it's too little, too late - judges at shows are still rewarding breeders for producing animals with unhealthy features - bulldogs with bigger heads, things like that."
A DEFRA spokesman confirmed that ministers were "working with the devolved administrations to identify the implications of the convention, were the government to sign it".
BakedDon
05-02-2007, 06:41 PM
There Should Be A 'Digg Riot' Everyday
Hardcore issues censored daily but users raise hell over a trivial story
Infowars.net | May 2, 2007
Steve Watson
Users of the popular social network news site Digg are "rioting" over a decision by the site's owners to censor a story and reportedly ban a user for posting the HD-DVD AACS Processing Key number, which would allow someone to crack the copy protection on an HD-DVD.
The story that revealed the code got over 15,000 diggs in one day but was pulled from the site overnight sparking some pointed articles discussing the censorship.
These legitimate and well thought out stories were then also ruthlessly deleted and their submitters unquestioningly banned. More stories were then submitted discussing Digg censorship. Those stories suffered the same fate.
When it quickly became obvious that the Digg staff had got themselves in too deep and were engaging in mass censorship of any article discussing either the original HD-DVD code story or the follow up articles on Digg censorship in general, a virtual 'riot' started.
An onslaught on submissions concerning the subject from an angry crowd within the Digg community has proven too much for the site's owners to handle. Earlier today the front four pages of Digg consisted entirely of stories displaying the code number or criticizing Digg for its actions. Click for enlargement.
Seemingly the censorship has also started to spread from Digg to Wikipedia which has started locking down pages related to HD DVD. It is already too late though as the code number has gone viral on other social network sites such as You Tube and Reddit.
The point to make here however is why does it take something as trivial as this for censorship to be noticed?
Digg, along with many other social networking sites censors everyday. Infowars and Prisonplanet stories regularly get hundreds, even thousands, of diggs but almost never appear on the front pages of Digg.com.
Our most hard hitting reports are usually instantly buried, sometimes only a matter of minutes after they have been submitted.
Last March a bug in Digg's spy tool gave one smart Digger the ability to peer into the inner workings of the community. David LeMieux found a way to highlight which users were burying stories on Digg, and why.
A cursory search through David LeMieux' hacked list of Digg buries reveals that many stories relating to 9/11 have been buried by the same group.
Reports have regularly resurfaced that suggest Digg may be suffering abuse at the hands of a group of users that are burying Digg stories they find ideologically unappealing.
Rumours have been flying around the internet for months that these so called "bury brigades" could be more than just a group of geeky self appointed censors and that it may actually be Digg themselves, or even agencies of the government, that are censoring stories and preventing the information from going viral on the net.
Digg's bury system has been accused of being totally undemocratic because it allows a few users to prevent the many from reading articles and making their own mind up on the material.
This system is clearly flawed, many Infowars and Prisonplanet reports have gone on to receive thousands of diggs and hundreds of comments AFTER they have been buried. All this has been of little use because once a story is buried it cannot be brought back and thus cannot hit the front page of digg.com and be seen by millions of readers who do not normally visit Prisonplanet and Infowars.
The same is true of many other alternative news sites.
The DVD Digg 'riot' proves that users CAN take over and successfully overcome censorship of information should there be enough of them. The sad thing is that more people consider being able to copy Meet The Fockers more important than exposing how a criminal US government was complicit in the most deadly attack upon the country in history.
BakedDon
05-02-2007, 06:44 PM
Mike Gravel not included in MSNBC poll because he was...get this...rude Add as My Number One (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16710815)
jdog2050 jdog2050 submitted, made popular 1 hour 16 min ago (www.msnbc.msn.com)
That's right folks, apparently trashing the military industrial complex brands you as...rude. "Oh me oh my, what evah' will we do with this "Gravel" character, Mr. Jonesley? Mr. Perkins, please pass my snuff box, I must calm my nerves!"
BakedDon
05-02-2007, 06:48 PM
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZlCaneDAd8&NR=1): Calls for Bush to be 'Tried, Hung and Shot' Add as My Number One
bbrodsky bbrodsky submitted, made popular 6 hours 6 min ago (www.youtube.com)
Rage is back thanks to Bush. Sweet little video
BakedDon
05-02-2007, 06:49 PM
Outrageous: Heroes Fined $85 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070502/ap_on_fe_st/good_samaritans_cited)
moojj moojj submitted, made popular 6 hours 36 min ago (news.yahoo.com)
Canoeists were stunned when they saw a woman jump off the Perrine Bridge, her body landing near them in the Snake River. After paddling out to save her they arrived at the shore where a sargeant gave them an $85 fine for not wearing life jackets
BakedDon
05-02-2007, 06:51 PM
11 year old girl kills 2 armed illegle home invaders. (http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=185167)
Walt65 Walt65 submitted, made popular 6 hours 56 min ago (www.libertypost.org)
It seems the two crooks never learned two things, they were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine. Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun
BakedDon
05-02-2007, 06:55 PM
Mike Gravel says, “I would legalize marijuana.” (http://www.studentsforgravel.com/wordpress/?p=18) Add as My Number One
kleevr kleevr submitted, made popular 7 hours 16 min ago (www.studentsforgravel.com)
Mike Gravel: "That ones real simple, I would legalize marijuana. [...] You should be able to buy that at a liquor store." Did Mike just blow your mind?
Enforcer
05-03-2007, 12:35 PM
The peanut butter thing is very interesting. Didn't Know that.
mathmission
05-04-2007, 08:15 AM
Yeah, I do love my daily trivia!
Enforcer
05-04-2007, 09:20 AM
Heh, Where did you get that? I want something cool like that!!!
:dotdance:
BakedDon
05-04-2007, 07:35 PM
Jon Stewart Tries To Save Andy Card's Soul!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/17/jon-stewart-to-andy-card-come-to-the-light-side/
BakedDon
05-04-2007, 07:38 PM
FBI agent testifies he posed as al-Qaida recruiter in terror case
AP | May 04, 2007
LARRY NEUMEISTER
An FBI agent who posed as an al-Qaida recruiter in a terrorism investigation testified Thursday at a doctor's trial, recalling that a key conspirator in the case showed him how he could strangle somebody with his prayer beads.
The agent, Ali Soufan, is a key witness in the terrorism trail against the doctor, Rafiq Abdus Sabir, 52, who was charged two years ago with pledging to provide material support to al-Qaida by offering to treat the group's injured fighters.
Most of Soufan's testimony in nearly a day on the witness stand revolved around conversations he had with Tarik Shah, a martial arts expert and jazz musician who said he wanted to introduce him to Sabir. Several taped conversations from a meeting between the agent and Shah in Plattsburgh, N.Y. were played for the jury.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Karl Metzner often paused the tapes to ask Soufan to explain portions of the conversations.
During one talk, Soufan said Shah showed him long prayer beads of the type worn by martial arts masters, and said Shah demonstrated that he could strangle someone with the prayer beads _ "that he could kill with these beads."
Soufan testified the demonstration came after an earlier conversation in which he told Shah that members of al-Qaida had already used martial arts effectively in attacks "and were very successful."
Soufan said he was referring to the hijackers involved in the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
Shah pleaded guilty several weeks ago to providing material support to a terrorist organization. He faces 15 years in prison. Two other defendants, a former Washington D.C. cab driver and a Brooklyn bookstore owner, have pleaded guilty to similar charges and face between 13 and 15 years in prison.
The pleas left Sabir as the lone defendant in the case that relied on tape recordings by a government informant that began weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks.
Sabir's lawyer, Ed Wilford, said there was very little evidence, if any, related to his client.
"It's clear you're dealing with two different people," he said of the distinction between his client and Shah. "Dr. Sabir is a medical doctor," he said. "This guy, Shah, is a nut."
Wilford said the government was trying to make up for the lack of evidence against Sabir by showing the jury heavy evidence against someone he knew, Shah, and by linking al-Qaida to multiple terrorist attacks.
"What the government is trying to do is lump everybody into one pot," he said.
If convicted, Sabir could face up to 30 years in prison.
tiremonkey2000
05-04-2007, 09:09 PM
Night all time for bed, i have to work tomorrow
tiremonkey2000
05-05-2007, 05:32 AM
I guess it's time for work again, this working 6 days a week sucks big time.
Cya later this afternoon.
mathmission
05-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Test
mathmission
05-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Yep, that didn't work
Enforcer
05-06-2007, 04:00 PM
Test
^^What is that supposed to do?
mathmission
05-06-2007, 04:33 PM
Trying to get a spoiler function to work, where it can hide portions of text. Say you wanted to do a movie review, but didn't want to spoil part of it for those that are reading, you would be able to use that code to block that portion and they could then click on it to reveal it.
Enforcer
05-07-2007, 09:40 AM
That is sweet!!! Hope you get it working..
BakedDon
05-08-2007, 11:04 AM
Bruce Willis Says JFK Killers Still In Power Add as My Number One
BurningFIREs BurningFIREs submitted, made popular 15 hours 52 min ago (www.nypost.com)
In a new magazine interview, Bruce Willis spills the beans on his skepticism that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in the assassination of JFK, and suggests that the some of the same criminals who killed Kennedy are still in power today. More… (http://www.nypost.com/seven/05052007/gossip/pagesix/humble_skeptic_pagesix_.htm)
BakedDon
05-08-2007, 11:07 AM
Congressman Ron Paul for President (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hfa7vT02lA&eurl=)
Vid of the Debate
Like ABC, Yahoo! has conveniently ommited Ron Paul from their presidential candidacy polls and election coverage.
http://news.yahoo.com/page/presidential_election_2008;_ylt=Ak1s8jjCRsM1WXtXEA ygkotpu6cv
I just called and gave them a piece of my mind. I promised them that if they did not respond to the situation, our movement would have their phones ringing off of the hook.
If any of you are commited to fighting for your liberty - if any of you have the brass and steel to walk your talk, contact them immediately and demand that Ron Paul be placed immediately.
Call them repeatedly, if you need to.
Here's the number to call and let them know how you feel.
Jill Nash
Chief Communications Officer
Senior Vice President
(408) 349-3300 Option 1 to dial by name, then 6274 then, Option 9
BakedDon
05-08-2007, 11:08 AM
Tucker Carlson interviews Ron Paul prior to the GOP debate. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lye4VjMMQE) In the interview, he admits that he voted for him as a Libertarian candidate and supports his views. Lets pray that more actual conservatives come out of hiding now that Dr. Paul has shown us that conserving the Constitutional values is nothing to be ashamed of.
BakedDon
05-08-2007, 11:11 AM
Wanna get rid of the IRS and the Federal Reserve??
Ron Paul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hfa7vT02lA&eurl=) is our chance to restore the Constitutional values that made this country so great.
Congressman Ron Paul for President
Vid of the Debate
BakedDon
05-08-2007, 06:04 PM
In a triumph for the pharmaceutical industry, the Senate on Monday killed a drive to allow consumers to buy prescription drugs from abroad at a significant savings over domestic prices.
On a 49-40 vote, the Senate required the Food and Drug Administration to certify the safety and effectiveness of imported drugs before they can be imported, a requirement that officials have said they cannot meet.
"Well, once again the big drug companies have proved that they are the most powerful and best financed lobby in Washington," said Sen. David Vitter, R-La.
BakedDon
05-08-2007, 06:07 PM
Lou Dobbs Is Not a Fan of President Bush
When Lou Dobbs tells Lesley Stahl of "60 Minutes" that he's not a fan of Bush, she questions how he can consider himself to be a "journalist."
BakedDon
05-08-2007, 06:08 PM
By Fabiola Sanchez
Republished from The Associated Press via the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6615635,00.html)
Justice minister claims DEA has been running drugs through Venezuelan territory
Venezuela on Monday said it will not allow U.S. agents to carry out counter-drug operations in the country, accusing the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration of being a “new cartel’’ that aids traffickers.
Justice Minister Pedro Carreno said the South American nation suspended cooperation with the agency in 2005 after determining that ``they were moving a large amount of drugs.’’ President Hugo Chavez at the time also accused the DEA of spying.
“The United States with its DEA monopolizes the shipping of drugs like a cartel,’’ Carreno told reporters. “We determined that we were evidently in the presence of a new cartel.’’ He did not elaborate.
Spokesman Brian Penn said the U.S. Embassy categorically denies the accusation and called the DEA “the leading agency combatting drug trafficking around the world.’...
BakedDon
05-09-2007, 06:03 PM
U.S. Opens Border to First Mexican Trucks in 25 Years
Thomas Black / Bloomberg | February 23, 2007
Mexican trucks will be allowed to make deliveries beyond U.S. border areas for the first time in 25 years, in a test announced by U.S. and Mexican officials.
The one-year program will permit 100 Mexican transportation companies to carry cargo beyond 25-mile border zones, U.S. Transportation Secretary Mary Peters said in a statement today.
The agreement eliminates procedures that since 1982 have required Mexican trucks to transfer cargo going beyond the border zone to a U.S. carrier. American trucks, which face similar restrictions by Mexico, are to be included in the cross- border program later.
``Through this new pilot program, we are finding a better way to do business with one of this nation's largest trading partners,'' Peters said at the border city of El Paso, Texas.
Mexico ranks third in trade with the U.S., behind Canada and China. U.S.-Mexico trade rose 14 percent last year to $332 billion. Mexico exported $198 billion in goods to the U.S., with more than 80 percent shipped by truck.
Under the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement, Mexican and U.S. trucks were to gain access to each other's countries by the end of 1995. President Bill Clinton blocked the cross-border trucking, citing concerns that Mexican trucks weren't safe.
The Mexican government ``will begin to consider'' granting permits for U.S. trucks to operate in Mexico, the statement said.
U.S. Inspections
Mexican trucks that will operate in the U.S. must pass a U.S. Transportation Department safety inspection before entering the country. The trucks will be required to have insurance and the drivers must meet license requirements. Salaries of Mexican truck drivers are lower than their U.S. counterparts.
James Hoffa, president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, the second-largest U.S. union, said the agreement will make American highways unsafe.
``They are playing a game of Russian roulette on America's highways,'' Hoffa said in an e-mailed statement.
The American Trucking Associations, an industry trade group, said in a statement that the pilot program ``recognized the need to improve efficiency at the border.''
Establishment of U.S. truck inspections in Mexico, announced yesterday by Peters, marked the last of 22 requirements that Congress mandated in 2001.
``Safety is the number-one priority and strict U.S. safety standards won't change,'' U.S. Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez said in a statement.
To contact the reporter on this story: Thomas Black in Monterrey at tblack@bloomberg.net .
BakedDon
05-09-2007, 06:06 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yTRQ9hBA17M
Family Guy TV show on Skull and Bones plus 9/11 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yTRQ9hBA17M)
BakedDon
05-09-2007, 06:08 PM
short on Skull and Bones (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rcZig9Fkr1A)in case you didnt know
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 04:14 PM
Something you may not know about the Honey Bee problem... It has yet to bother any organic honey bees..
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 04:15 PM
There's no justice, there's just us
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 04:17 PM
From as far back as Aztec and Mayan days, Mexico has been nothing but a totalitarian state. Instead of revolting in their own country and installing a government that respects rights, millions of Mexicans come to the US to unknowingly destroy it.
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 04:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/IOe5uYFcXzY
Your government is allowing them to flood this country... Why ???
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 04:24 PM
Maybe this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4167926428522965274&q=America+destroyed+by+design&hl=en)will help you find answers
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 04:25 PM
11 to 30 million illegals.. while we fight terror over there, so we dont have to over here, huh.... Are you buying the bs they are selling or are you able to see past the propaganda?
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 04:27 PM
Trying to get a spoiler function to work, where it can hide portions of text. Say you wanted to do a movie review, but didn't want to spoil part of it for those that are reading, you would be able to use that code to block that portion and they could then click on it to reveal it.
that would be a nice Read More button for me huh??
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 04:44 PM
The FDA attempting to regulate supplements, a prescription for calcium or vitamin C. WHo could be behind such a thing ??? Could it be thee pharmaceutical industry???
THe FDA has to listen http://www.fda.gov/ Go tell them that you want the right to buy a multi vitamin!
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 05:10 PM
Give the finger to illegals protesting and get beatdown then arrested (http://www.youtube.com/v/IOe5uYFcXzY)
The good ole US of A
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 05:11 PM
Fight for the Constitution, Not the Flag!
Love People, Not Places!
BakedDon
05-10-2007, 08:30 PM
good news from the treasury --- NOT !
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070510/federal_budget.html?.v=10
AP
Revenue Collections Hit Record in April
Thursday May 10, 8:33 pm ET
By Martin Crutsinger, AP Economics Writer
Revenue Collections Hit Record High in April, Improve Budget Deficit
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal revenue collections hit an all-time high in April, contributing to a further improvement in the budget deficit for the year.
Releasing its monthly budget report, the Treasury Department said Thursday that through the first seven months of this budget year, the deficit totals $80.8 billion, significantly below the $184.1 billion imbalance run up during the first seven months of the 2006 budget year.
ADVERTISEMENT
So far this year, tax revenues total $1.505 trillion, an increase of 11.2 percent over the same period last year. That figure includes $383.6 billion collected in April, the largest monthly tax collection on record.
Tax collections swell in April every year as individuals file their tax returns by the deadline.
For the first seven months of this budget year, which began Oct. 1, revenue collections and government spending are at all-time highs.
However, the spending total of $1.585 billion was up at a slower pace of 3.2 percent from the previous year.
The difference in the growth of tax collections and spending is the reason for the narrowing deficit.
The Congressional Budget Office said that it now expects the deficit for all of 2007 to total between $150 billion and $200 billion. That would be a significant improvement from last year's deficit of $248.2 billion, which had been the lowest imbalance in four years.
The federal budget was in surplus for four years from 1998 through 2001 as the long economic expansion helped push revenues higher. But the 2001 recession, the cost of fighting a global war on terror and the loss of revenue from President Bush's tax cuts sent the budget back into the red starting in 2002.
The administration's budget sent to Congress in February projects that the deficit will be eliminated by 2012 even if the president achieves his goal of getting his tax cuts made permanent. They are now due to expire in 2010.
However, critics say the improvement in the deficits will be only temporary with deficits expected to balloon again with the higher Social Security and Medicare payments needed as 78 million baby boomers retire.
While Bush sought to make entitlement reform the centerpiece of his domestic agenda in a second term, his proposals to bolster Social Security with personal savings accounts has gone nowhere in Congress.
For April, revenue receipts totaled $383.64 billion while spending totaled $205.97 billion, leaving a surplus for the month of $177.7 billion.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:22 AM
TODAY'S MYSTERY QUOTE
QUOTE: "I wonder what fool it was that first invented
kissing."
HINT: Was an Anglo-Irish writer who is famous for works
like Gulliver's Travels,
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:22 AM
The pleasant feeling of eating chocolate is caused by a
chemical called anadamide, a neurotransmitter which also
is produced naturally in the brain.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:22 AM
The first city in the world to have a population of more
than one million was London, which today is the 13th most
populated city, with about 8 million residents.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:22 AM
MasterCard was originally called MasterCharge.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:23 AM
Keepsakes
High school graduation is the No. 1 reason for purchasing
graduation cards, and the average graduate receives 17.5
graduation cards. Sixty percent of all graduation cards
are purchased for high-school graduates. College graduation
is the No. 2 reason for buying graduation cards, and the
average college graduate receives 7.5 cards.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:23 AM
She-Heo-Seo
Before the year 1000, the word "she" did not exist in the
English language. The singular female reference was the
word "heo", which also was the plural of all genders. The
word "she" appeared only in the 12th century, about 400
years after English began to take form. "She" probably
derived from the Old English feminine "seo", the Viking
word for feminine reference.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:23 AM
When Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa was stolen from the
Louvre in 1912, 6 replicas were sold as the original,
each at a huge price, in the 3 years before the original
was recovered.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:24 AM
QUOTE: "I wonder what fool it was that first invented
kissing."
ANSWER: Jonathon Swift
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:24 AM
TODAY'S MYSTERY QUOTE
QUOTE: "What dreadful hot weather we have! It keeps me
in a continual state of inelegance."
HINT: Was a prominent English novelist whose work is
considered part of the Western canon. Her insights
into women's lives and her mastery of form and irony
made her arguably the most noted and influential
novelist of her era.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:24 AM
Melting ice cubes sometimes precipitate white flakes.
This is calcium carbonate which is present in many water
supplies and is completely harmless.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:24 AM
In India and other parts of the world, it has traditionally
been viewed as unhealthy to drink a libation with ice.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:24 AM
In 1914, Frederick Wolf Jr. invented a refrigeration device.
Accompanying this device was the world's first recorded ice
cube tray.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:25 AM
An interesting characteristic of commercially made ice
cubes is that they are completely clear, lacking the
clouding found in the center of domestically made ice
cubes. This is due to the machine forming the cubes in
thin layers, instead of all the water that the ice cube
consists of being frozen at once.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:25 AM
The first refrigerator to see widespread use was the
General Electric "Monitor-Top" refrigerator introduced
in 1927. The compressor assembly, which produced sub-
stantial heat, was placed above the cabinet, and
surrounded with a decorative ring. Over 1,000,000 units
were produced. This refrigerator used sulfur dioxide
refrigerant.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:25 AM
Frost-Free
Early freezer units accumulated ice crystals around the
freezing units. This was a result of humidity introduced
into the units when the doors to the freezer was opened.
This build up of frost required the periodic thawing of
the units, to maintain their efficiency. Advances in
frost-free refrigeration eliminated the thawing task were
introduced in the 1950s.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:25 AM
QUOTE: "What dreadful hot weather we have! It keeps me
in a continual state of inelegance."
ANSWER: Jane Austen
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:26 AM
TODAY'S MYSTERY QUOTE
QUOTE: "Whenever a man does a thoroughly stupid thing,
it is always from the noblest motives."
HINT: Was an Anglo-Irish playwright, novelist, poet,
and short story writer. One of the most successful
playwrights of late Victorian London.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:26 AM
Dentists in the old days would quickly transplant live
teeth, often stolen from the dead, into their patients’
jawbones.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:26 AM
In an average lifetime, a person produces 10,000 gallons
of saliva.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:26 AM
Oral cancer is the sixth most common cancer in the world.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:26 AM
Brace Face
The first "braces" were constructed by Pierre Fauchard in
1728. Fauchard's "braces" consisted of a flat strip of metal,
which was connected to teeth by pieces of thread. Orthodon-
tic Brackets were invented by Edward Angle in 1915. The
brackets consisted of little hooks of metal, which were att-
ached to bands which went around your teeth.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:27 AM
The dental community concedes that fluoride is largely
ineffective at preventing the most common type of cavity -
Pit & Fissure Decay - which accounts for upwards of 85% of
dental decay now experienced in the US.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:27 AM
If you are right handed, you will tend to chew your food
on your right side. If you are left handed, you will tend
to chew your food on your left side.
mathmission
05-11-2007, 11:27 AM
QUOTE: "Whenever a man does a thoroughly stupid thing,
it is always from the noblest motives."
ANSWER: Oscar Wilde
riscy
05-11-2007, 11:40 AM
I tend to do the opposite - but then, I am contrary :) If you are right handed, you will tend to chew your food
on your right side. If you are left handed, you will tend
to chew your food on your left side.
BakedDon
05-11-2007, 03:19 PM
Council on Foreign Relations on U.S. Dollar: “An Absurdity… Supported Only by Faith”
Cryptogon.com | May 10, 2007
The End of National Currency is the most astonishing thing that I have read since Zbigniew Brzezinski's appearance before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee earlier this year.
Foreign Affairs is the most important and influential journal of International Relations in the world. It is the mechanism by which the Council on Foreign Relations disseminates the game plan to people in polite circles. CFR's positions on core issues represent the raw building blocks for most of the gibberish spewed by the corporate media and the maniac fascist policies of the “developed world.” Publications like the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal are dumbed down versions of Foreign Affairs that are published daily. Television news is the same thing, but dumbed down again. Foreign Affairs is also where politicians from several countries look to determine what's safe to say, which policies are doable and what needs to be done. A degree in International Relations is largely a certification of a student's ability to internalize CFR jargon and concepts.
Got the picture?
BakedDon
05-11-2007, 03:20 PM
Bush orders contingency plans for attack on U.S.
L.A. Times | May 10, 2007
WASHINGTON — President Bush issued a formal national security directive Wednesday ordering agencies to prepare contingency plans for a surprise, "decapitating" attack on the federal government, and assigned responsibility for coordinating such plans to the White House.
The prospect of a nuclear bomb being detonated in Washington without warning, whether smuggled in by terrorists or a foreign government, has been cited by many security analysts as a rising concern since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
BakedDon
05-11-2007, 03:21 PM
The order makes explicit that the focus of federal worst-case planning involves a covert nuclear attack against the capital, in contrast with Cold War beliefs that a long-range strike would be preceded by a notice of minutes or hours as missiles were fueled and launched.
"As a result of the asymmetric threat environment, adequate warning of potential emergencies that could pose a significant risk to the homeland might not be available, and therefore all continuity planning shall be based on the assumption that no such warning will be received," states the 72-paragraph order.
The statement added, "Emphasis will be placed upon geographic dispersion of leadership, staff, and infrastructure in order to increase survivability and maintain uninterrupted Government Functions."
After the 2001 attacks, Bush assigned about 100 senior civilian managers to secretly rotate to locations outside of Washington for weeks or months at a time to ensure the nation's survival, a shadow government that evolved based on long-standing "continuity of operations plans."
Since then, other agencies including the Pentagon, the office of the Director of National Intelligence and CIA have taken steps to relocate facilities or key functions outside of Washington, citing factors such as economics or the importance of avoiding Beltway "group-think."
BakedDon
05-11-2007, 03:24 PM
9/11 Coincidences (Part Ten) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZVHsrncd3Y)
BakedDon
05-11-2007, 03:31 PM
On the day of 9/11, Bin Laden appeared on Asian TV and said that he knew nothing of the attacks and he blamed it on Zionists. And the FBI admitted that their subsequent Bin Laden confession video was a fake. The FBI's website admits that there is no proof that Bin Laden did it.
- follow the money -
Consider a High School Debate context, with rules: What is the REFLEXIVE of your "point" if in fact, TRUTH is superior knowledge which the "man" by attempted denial, sticks it to himself, leaving us still superior for defending Truth, and Daring to call that 'government' one of Treason. Debate over.
- follow the money -
BakedDon
05-11-2007, 03:58 PM
Do the research
Read the Report
What else is there...
Learn that instrument
Torrent that movie
Scratch that itch
Get the Message to Garcia
BakedDon
05-13-2007, 09:12 PM
Sources tell us that Willis is now virtually obsessed with "conspiracy" material and, like Charlie Sheen before him, spent months researching the JFK assassination as well as 9/11 before he spoke publicly to Vanity Fair.
BakedDon
05-13-2007, 09:14 PM
Earlier this week MySpace was accused of censoring information pertaining to Ron Paul's presidential campaign but the social networking site denied the allegations and later featured Paul's profile on their main page.
BakedDon
05-13-2007, 09:16 PM
In a break with the tradition of recent presidential campaigns, most of the major presidential candidates aren't releasing their income-tax filings
BakedDon
05-13-2007, 09:21 PM
Bush challenges hundreds of laws...President cites powers of his office
theodicean theodicean submitted, made popular 2 hours 1 min ago (www.boston.com) (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/)
President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.
ps It should say Bush Broke Laws .... If you or I challenged the laws in this way we would be in Jail.
BakedDon
05-13-2007, 09:22 PM
Active-Duty Generals Will 'Revolt' Against Bush If Surge Continues Into '08
mcorleyTP submitted, made popular 2 hours 31 min ago (thinkprogress.org) (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/13/generals-revolt/)
Appearing on NBC's Chris Matthews Show this morning, Atlanta Journal-Constitution columnist Cynthia Tucker revealed that sources within the military are warning of "a revolt from active-duty generals if September rolls around and the president is sticking with the surge into ‘08."
BakedDon
05-13-2007, 09:27 PM
A short break for preschoolers thoughts on aging (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frauenfelder/sets/72157600208546405/detail/)
BakedDon
05-13-2007, 09:28 PM
What exactly is this National Initiative that Mike Gravel's talking about?
oskite oskite submitted, made popular 15 hours 49 min ago (ni4d.us)
NI4D includes a constitutional amendment and a federal statute that equips the people with the central power of government, lawmaking. The people in every government jurisdiction of the United States become a new Check in Checks and Balances designed to control the abuses of government. Representative remains unaltered except for the partnership.
BakedDon
05-13-2007, 09:29 PM
Marijuana does NOT cause cancer (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html)
mschuster60 mschuster60 submitted, made popular 19 hours 9 min ago (www.washingtonpost.com)
The largest study of its kind surprisingly finds that smoking marijuana, even frequently, does NOT cause cancer. With no realisitic overdose, no cancer, and no physical addiction, marijuana is now CLEARLY less harmful than alcohol and cigarettes. LEGALIZE in '08 - and which candidates will do so: Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, and Ron Paul!
BakedDon
05-13-2007, 09:36 PM
Michael Moore Responds to Treasury Secretary's Investigation Threat
jonilynn2u jonilynn2u submitted, made popular 20 hours 9 min ago (www.alternet.org)
Under investigation by the Bush administration for taking ill 9/11 clean up workers to Cuba for better treatment than they received in America, Moore answers, "I have broken no laws and I have nothing to hide."
BakedDon
05-13-2007, 09:43 PM
Billions in Oil Missing in Iraq, U.S. Study Finds
Aidenag Aidenag submitted, made popular 1 day 9 hours ago (www.nytimes.com)
Between 100,000 and 300,000 barrels a day of Iraq ’s declared oil production over the past four years is unaccounted for and could have been siphoned off through corruption or smuggling, according to a draft American government report.
ps they mean they stole it
I mean hows thee average iraqi going to bring crude to the market.
It aint selling on eBay!
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:40 AM
TODAY'S MYSTERY QUOTE
QUOTE: "Children are given to us to discourage our
better emotions."
HINT: The pen name of British author Hector Hugh Munro,
whose witty and sometimes macabre stories satirised
Edwardian society and culture.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:41 AM
The Ojibway Indians of North America once considered it
dangerous to speak the names of their own husbands and wives.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:41 AM
The most common last name in the United States is Smith.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:41 AM
Most Common Names and Years
1880: Mary, Anna, Elizabeth, Margaret, Minnie, Emma,
Martha, Alice, Marie, Annie/Sarah (tie)
2004: Emily, Emma, Madison, Olivia, Hannah, Abigail,
Isabella, Ashley, Samantha, Elizabeth
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:41 AM
Most Common Names of Twins
1. Jacob, Joshua
2. Taylor, Tyler
3. Matthew, Michael
4. Daniel, David
5. Faith, Hope
6. Madison, Morgan
7. Ethan, Evan
8. Mackenzie, Madison
9. Alexander, Andrew
10. Nathan, Nicholas
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:41 AM
Renewed Name
The people of Indonesia may change their names after they
have suffered some misfortune or have had a serious illness.
They believe a new name will confuse the evil spirits that
brought them grief.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:41 AM
He said, She Said
In 1984 the Minnesota State Legislature ordered that all
gender-specific language, which only refers to one gender,
usually males, be removed from the state laws. After two
years of work, the rewritten laws were adopted. Only 301
of 20,000 pronouns were feminine. “His” was changed 10,000
times and “he” was changed 6,000 times.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:41 AM
QUOTE: "Children are given to us to discourage our
better emotions."
ANSWER: Saki
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:42 AM
TODAY'S MYSTERY QUOTE
QUOTE: "It is a pleasant thing to reflect upon, and
furnishes a complete answer to those who contend for
the gradual degeneration of the human species, that
every baby born into the world is a finer one than
the last."
HINT: (7 February 1812 - 9 June 1870), Pen-name "Boz",
was an English novelist.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:42 AM
There are approximately 22 million hearing-impaired
persons in the U.S.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:42 AM
The man who invented shorthand, John Gregg, was deaf.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:42 AM
A deaf center-fielder for the Cincinnati Reds, William
Hoy, invented the hand signals for strikes and balls in
baseball.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:42 AM
Approx. 1 in 17,000 people have one of the types of albinism.
People with albinism have little or no pigment in the
eyes, skin, and hair (or in some cases in the eyes alone).
They have inherited from their parents an altered copy of
a genes that does not work correctly. The altered gene
does not allow the body to make the usual amounts of a
pigment called melanin.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:42 AM
An older mother is more likely than a younger one to have a
baby with Down syndrome.
Of the total population, older mothers have fewer babies;
about 75% of babies with Down syndrome are born to younger
women because more younger women than older women have
babies. Only about nine percent of total pregnancies occur
in women 35 years or older each year, but about 25% of
babies with Down syndrome are born to women in this age group.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:42 AM
Spina Bifida Occulta or Meningocele or Myelomeningocele
Approximately 40% of all Americans may have spina bifida
occulta, but because they experience little or no symptoms,
very few of them ever know that they have it. The other
two types of spina bifida, meningocele and myelomeningocele,
are known collectively as "spina bifida manifesta," and
occur in approximately one out of every thousand births. Of
these infants born with "spina bifida manifesta," about 4%
have the meningocele form, while about 96% have myelomen-
ingocele form.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:43 AM
QUOTE: "It is a pleasant thing to reflect upon, and
furnishes a complete answer to those who contend for
the gradual degeneration of the human species, that
every baby born into the world is a finer one than
the last."
ANSWER: Charles Dickens
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:43 AM
TODAY'S MYSTERY QUOTE
QUOTE: "The future belongs to those who believe in the
beauty of their dreams."
HINT: Was an American human rights activist, stateswoman,
journalist, educator, author, and diplomat.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:43 AM
Beatle John Lennon witnessed his mother's death when she
was run over by a car.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:43 AM
Andrew Jackson was plagued his entire life by a bullet
wound to the chest, which he suffered in a duel.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:44 AM
A man named Charles Osborne came down with a case of
hiccups that lasted 68 years.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:44 AM
Common water striders, the mosquito-like bugs that skim
the surface of streams and ponds, don't sink because of
the hairs on their legs.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:44 AM
L. Ron Hubbard, the found of Scientology, was relieved
of his command in the U.S. Navy after shelling a Mexican
island of Baja California. Within ten years, Hubbard
wrote Dianetics and found Scientology.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:44 AM
Built in 1918 by 2000 laborers, the largest building
to be explosively demolished was the Sears Merchandise
Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
mathmission
05-14-2007, 10:44 AM
QUOTE: "The future belongs to those who believe in the
beauty of their dreams."
ANSWER: Eleanor Roosevelt
riscy
05-14-2007, 10:59 AM
I found this interesting :
If Earth's population was shrunk into a village of just 100 people- with all the human ratios existing in the world still remaining-what would this tiny, diverse village look like? That's exactly what Phillip M. Harter, a medical doctor at the Stanford University School of Medicine, attempted to figure out. This is what he found.
57 would be Asian.
21 would be European.
14 would be from the Western Hemisphere.
8 would be African.
52 would be female.
48 would be male.
70 would be nonwhite.
30 would be white.
70 would be non-Christian.
30 would be Christian.
89 would be heterosexual.
11 would be homosexual.
6 people would possess 59 percent of the entire world's wealth.
All 6 would be from the United States.
80 would live in substandard housing.
70 would be unable to read
50 would suffer from malnutrition.
1 would be near death.
1 would be pregnant.
1 would have a college education.
1 would own a computer.
The following is an anonymous interpretation
Think of it this way. If you live in a good home, have plenty to eat and can read, you are a member of a very select group. And if you have a good house, food, can read and have a computer, you are among the very elite. If you woke up this morning with more health than illness... you are more fortunate than the million who will not survive this week. If you have never experienced the danger of battle, the loneliness of imprisonment, the agony of torture, or the pangs of starvation... you are ahead of 500 million people in the world. If you can attend a church meeting without fear of harassment, arrest, torture, or death...you are fortunate, more than three billion people in the world can't. If you have food in the refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roof overhead and a place to sleep...you are richer than 75% of this world.
If you have money in the bank, in your wallet, and spare change in a dish someplace ...you are among the top 8% of the world's wealthy. If your parents are still alive and still married...you are very rare, even in the United States. If you hold up your head with a smile on your face and are truly thankful... You are blessed because the majority can, but most do not. If you can hold someone's hand, hug them or even touch them on the shoulder...you are blessed because you can offer healing touch. If you can read this message, you are more blessed than over two billion people in the world that cannot read at all.
riscy
05-14-2007, 11:00 AM
What makes this more poignant is that I got it from a teenager in Bangladesh who realised how lucky he was to be using the internet in a very nice home.
mathmission
05-15-2007, 01:35 PM
Yeah, that's a cool list..
riscy
05-15-2007, 01:49 PM
thx MM
mathmission
05-15-2007, 03:32 PM
NP! I like things like that. Puts the whole lot into perspective
BakedDon
05-15-2007, 06:07 PM
yes it does.. Only one with a computer... We should all really appreciate the fact that we have computers that are on the web.
BakedDon
05-15-2007, 06:08 PM
One percenters we are
BakedDon
05-15-2007, 06:09 PM
US SUPREME COURT SCREWED THE VITAMIN CONSUMERS OF AMERICA TODAY MAY 14, 2007- WHATS NEXT....
IAHF List:
Today, May 14, 2007 the Supreme Court denied the Writ of Certiorare in the Ephedra Case (See http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/051407pzor.pdf
see 06-922 Nutraceutical et al v Echenbach, Comm'R, FDA et al
WHAT THIS MEANS
By taking this action, the Supreme court has effectively scuttled DSHEA because this now means that the FDA can do the same sort of flawed, drug based "risk/benefit" assessment that they used to (fraudulently) ban ephedra to ban ANY dietary supplement on equally flawed grounds (on a whim), in other words, the Supreme court intends to allow the FDA to regulate foods as DRUGS despite congressional intent with DSHEA that dietary supplements be regulated as FOODS and NOT as DRUGS (!!!)
HOLD ONTO YOUR HATS FOLKS- THIS IS GETTING REALLY UGLY
This truly puts vitamin consumers behind the 8 Ball, leaving us wide open to anything the FDA wants to do from here on in unless we can mount a campaign big enough to get a now ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL amendment into S.1082/HR1561 to protect ourselves, but we find ourselves in the following very strange predicament:
Senators Hatch/Harkin/Kennedy and Enzi all INSISTED in a colloquy in the May 2 Congressional Record that there is "nothing" in S.1082 that undoes DSHEA, and the (pharma dominated) Natural Products Assn (formerly NNFA) has announced this colloquy to the world on the front page of their website which will put vast numbers of health food stores and vitamin manufacturers to SLEEP on the issue unless we can all work together to WAKE THEM UP! (See their announcement for Thursday May 3: http://www.naturalproductsassoc.org/site/PageServer
Ironically, even as they made this erroneous announcement, the Natural Products Assn filed an Amicus Brief regarding the Ephedra case which fully bears out the importance of the Supreme Court taking this case on to stop the FDA from continuing to violate the law as they did when they banned Ephedra by using a drug based risk/benefit analysis that DSHEA doesn't allow them to do: http://www.naturalproductsassoc.org/site/PageNavigator/ic_amicus
Its obvious to IAHF that the Natural Products Association, Senators Hatch, Harkin, Kennedy and Enzi either fail to grasp the nature of the threat posed by allowing the words "Food" and "Food Ingredients" to remain in S.1082 in the provision establishing the Reagan Udall Institute, and fail to grasp the sort of arbitrary decision the FDA will be allowed to make regarding Food Safety via their "Critical Path" technology, or they DO understand this all too well and are just PRETENDING not to understand our concerns.The NPA does have pharmaceutical companies amongst their membership, and have never enforced their conflict of interest disclosure bylaw and the front office of the trade association has always seemed unduly influenced by pharma due to this.
The huge number of dietary supplement consumers who have contacted Hatch and Harkin's offices requesting that the words FOOD and FOOD INGREDIENTS be REMOVED from the section of S.1082 that creates the Reagan Udall Foundation for the FDA were ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in their concern!!
Biomarkers are changes in proteins at the cellular level. Through the critical path initiative outlined in S.1082, Hatch/Harkin/Kennedy/ and Enzi intend to allow the FDA to evaluate FOODS and FOOD INGREDIENTS (including Dietary Supplements) on a totally ARBITRARY BASIS based on FDA's interpretation of how they effect biomarkers. This