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    eXeem public beta officially released

    Sloncek and crew have made the final tweaks to the beta release of their new client eXeem. After months of beta testing and widespread speculation of the use of adware, they came up with ver. 20 to be the open beta (notice I said it's still beta according to the eXeem website, http://www.exeem.com. You can download the latest copy there and check out what the latest news is on new releases.

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    downloaded it, ran spybot, then tried it out. Initial impressions are alright. There's no "connect" button, which seems a little odd. I had to ask for a list of newly published files in order to get it to connect, but it worked. A few of the files I requested are still saying "waiting for peer"; the only ones that seem to even start downloading are the ones with more than one peer. Of course, that's just my personal experience; it might work better for others.

    It's definitely different enough to be worth checking out, but you might wanna wait for the lite version.
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    Thanks for the feedback CC. Beware when you close the app too, I have heard it doesn't always shutdown when you think it should and remains resident after closing.

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    I think that Overpeer is going to be having a field day with this new 'network' - release a bogus file and have 98% of the upload bandwidth needed to spread it provided by the victims themselves.

    The only way that eXeem will work is if everyone ignores the 'search' feature and only downloads from verified link sites. (but then you would not need to switch from using Bittorrent for that)

    I am always glad whenever a new P2P comes out, but I think that eXeem's capabilities have been over-hyped. I strongly believe that eXeem needs to remove or greatly modify their 'publish torrent' feature because it makes it much too easy to anonymously release fakes. This new network's promoted "search and download" method is very susceptible to being corrupted by fake files.

    The oft-repeated claim is that by providing a user-rating feature for posting an opinion of each file will be an adequate defense against bogus files. But the reality is that a comment section for each file will do very little because Overpeer and their ilk can post a release and then hold back on the last few chunks needed to complete the file - so a fake can be spread far and wide with minimal resources from the originator. Since there is no way to check a file for verification until at least one person completes it, a fake file may already be well advanced in the process of downloading by scores of people before it ever gets tagged as fake.

    In addition to having a file-rating system, a user-rating system would be an even more valuable tool in determining if the file originator has a proven record of trustworthiness, but eXeem seems to have no future plans for this.

    If eXeem could add some additional security features that BT does not have - for instance; partial proxying or IP spoofing, or even compartmentalizing chunk-trading groups - anything that would give it a qualitative edge over BT. But until then, there is no substantial reason that I can see why anyone should yet give up BitTorrent in favor of Exeem.

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    Just downloaded eXeem and the speeds were mediocre but then I ran Spybot S&D and got a hit for Cydoor. I'm now going to uninstall eXeem. There are SO many alternatives out there that I don't need to look at ads and have adware installed on my comp in order to get torrents.

    I must say I feel a little betrayed by Sloncek who felt that the inclusion of Cydoor was necessary.

    The program just isn't worth it IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiflvr
    Just downloaded eXeem and the speeds were mediocre but then I ran Spybot S&D and got a hit for Cydoor. I'm now going to uninstall eXeem. There are SO many alternatives out there that I don't need to look at ads and have adware installed on my comp in order to get torrents.

    I must say I feel a little betrayed by Sloncek who felt that the inclusion of Cydoor was necessary.

    The program just isn't worth it IMHO.
    Cydoor wasn't necessary but it is paying the bills isn't it. Something is just wierd with this whole thing. The best source for torrents now sending out adware...Just feels wrong.

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    Well... I have learned a few things in my short 23 years on this earth..and one of them is to trust my gut feeling about thing. I don't like something about Exeem. Don't get me wrong, I would love to be totally off on this one. I am always all for a great new P2P app. However, all the hype before they even had a working client for the masses was one thing I really didn't like about all this. Also, the way things went down make me wonder if Sloncek, really closed Suprnova because of "legal pressures" or if it was all a ploy to cash in on this. I'm not pointing blame on him because with the massive amount of traffic he was getting, and the potential cabbage that something like that can offer are very corruptable, and I have never been in his situation so don't know how I would stand that test. For some reason, to me Exeem seems like the most shady thing since Earth Station Five. If it really turns out to be a "bit torrent" without trackers and safer, I will be more then happy to eat my hat, but right now it just does not feel right to me. Whoever is behind it is looking to make a buck for sure. While I don't like the idea of profiting off P2P, at least I can understand it if the sole reason is to be able to bring your users the best possible product. But I'm just not so sure thats the case here. Only time will tell but I just can't recommend people to use this program at this time.
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    I'm afraid I have to second JiMi and tm. They have pretty much said all that can be said. Me, I remain waiting.
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    Exeem does not seem to be able to generate either torrent files or exeem: links for any files except files that you have already downloaded fron the eXeem network.

    If I want to release a file that's on my hard drive, the only way to do it is to 'publish' it on the exeem network. Anyone who downloads the file can then create a torrent or hashlink to post on a forum. This basically forces everyone to share new files only on the exeem network instead of being able to release them through website posts.

    Another shortcoming is that it is very easy for a fake-file spewer to impersonate someone when releasing a bogus file. Let's say that I built up a reputation for putting out quality releases, well, anyone (such as maybe Overpeer) could login as ME and release fake files under my name. On other P2P networks like Filetopia it's impossible for anyone else to steal my name without knowing my encryption key. Emule also uses key exchange between peers to prevent imposters from stealing download credits.

    And then there's the obvious question of whether going from an opensource, decentralized P2P like Bittorrent to a proprietary, centralized, spyware-laden P2P such as Exeem would really be a step in the right direction?

    But the defining point of what will make or break this new network is whether or not the BitTorrent veterans will abandon BT and instead release their files on eXeem? I seriously doubt that.

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    I agree. There's something just "off" about eXeem. Plus the best thing about Suprnova was the moderation of the torrents. There is none with eXeem and there already appears to be Kiddie porn files floating around .

    Now there is a way to exclude adult content which is great but there are too many chances to get ****ed over with this type of app. I don't need to get a whole ton of viruses and crap that'll turn my comp into a $1500 paperweight.

    I'm taking a pass on eXeem for now.

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    I have to agree with what tm's said so far (nice reviewing ). eXeem offers nothing new and is just simply way too exploitable (i.e. fake releasing). Verified sites would be needed to grab known good files, which defeats the whole purpose of this new apps existance. I see no reason why anyone would favour this over the original BT protocol, other good partial-sharing protocols (ed2k/Overnet/Kad) or even as a regular torrent client.

    I won't go into "conspiracies" as most of those are simply lame and have no substance at all.

    Yep, it's closed source, contains adware and it looks like "Lite" clients could be attacked in the future. Ignoring all that and just looking at eXeem as a new client/network, I see nothing to get excited about. Just lots of hype from a once decent source for torrents.

    Bram Cohen said somewhere a few weeks ago "eXeem is just another network for people to distribute warez". This public beta hasn't gone far to prove him wrong.

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    I dont know waht you guys are talking about! This thing is the best client I've ever used!

    The comments is enough for me to know if the file is real or not. There's info on each one, and this thing is a breeze and fast. Although yes, the torrents dont save unfortunatley. But who cares! Everythings on one network.. and it actually goes fast. And no more everything being seperated.

    EXEEM ROCKS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sn0w
    EXEEM ROCKS!
    ..that remains to be seen
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