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Discuss: BitComet & µtorrent

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    Discuss: BitComet & µtorrent

    This topic is mostly for those who have
    1) used/tried both clients
    2) a BC user
    3) µtorrent user? (if you come to this forum too)

    Have you tried the new µtorrent (1.2/1.2.2)? If yes, do you like it,? How does it compare with BC? What are the weaknesses/bugs/downside of µtorrent? Because I heard enough on how superior it is!

    Feel free to discuss both clients.

    As for myself, I haven't tried µtorrent. I've downloaded it, have a look at the design and I don't really like it and I just let it sit there at my desktop. So I can't really comment on the functions.

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    µTorrent is good... very good. It doesn't have as many features as BitComet, but what it does do it does well. It also uses hardly any memory or CPU time and is as stable as a rock.

    µTorrent is still in very early stages, but I believe it will turn into 'the' client to use in a couple of months. It's already my client of choice for private trackers, at least until BitComet fixes the bug with DHT & private torrents.

    But don't just take my word for it - give it a go for yourself and make your own mind up :)

    I'm using v1.2.2 btw. I only started using it at v1.1.7 (3-4 versions ago) so I can't really comment on older versions.
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    I recently switched from Bitcomet to utorrent, and havent really missed any of the extra feautres of BC. I'm not knocking BC, just saying that it's worth it for that extra leanness that utorrent has.
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    Well, I have them both, and really tried on several files. Just to be able to compare, I even tried DL the same torrents with both clients, switching over from one to the other. Since my PC is still an older PIII 450 with Win98 - it was VERY promising. Like Dragosani, I think it WILL be great when it matures...
    I'm using V 1.2.2, since the newer 1.2.3 Beta (supports Unicode!) is not yet compatible with Win98. BTW - I suggest to all uT users/non-users to subscribe to this thread - and they will be informed of all new versions !!!

    For the time being (!) I'm staying with the good old BitComet. Here is my short list of the pros(+) and cons(-) relative to BC:


    -1(+) Low on resources (CPU/MEM) , better for older PCs
    -2(+) Actively being developed-enhanced with good reaction to users' requests
    -3(+) I like the fully sortable peers' list with a country ID (real flag!)
    -4(+) Embedded Graphical speed charts - nice
    -5(+) File "pieces" distribution - nice (but useless...)
    -6(+) A very nice DL scheduler (although I don't use it...)


    -a(-) LOWER DL SPEED, and LOWER ACCELERATION (=the time it takes it to speedup) - this is VERY hard to measure. It is my personal judgment , that has to do with other basic reasons - mentioned bellow
    -b(-) DHT support - newly added (Mainline DHT). It looks like it is NOT so widely spread/efficient as BC's implementation, and might have some bugs.
    -c(-) No pear-data-exchange
    -d(-) Less effective Disk caching
    Note: b-d are the main reasons for lower speed.
    -e(-) no Unicode support (for Win9 and only beta support (new) for others.
    -f(-) Poorer statistics-log (no average time/speed etc)
    -g(-) Less informative on tracker's reactions (no error codes, # of peers returned)
    -h(-) Lack some "comfort" features - file extentions, less preferences, renaming destinations, etc
    -i(-) A lot of info on data "pieces" - that is really not useful and takes a lot of GUI space
    -j(-) So called "advanced options" are not user-friendly , and hard to understand

    Anyway - a bit more development and it can be ahead of BC !!!

    Edit:
    Some more points/info - can be read here: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php ... 820#p21820

    Edit2:
    uTorrent V 1.2.3 build 360 - is now running on ALL Windows versions (98 included...) and supports Unicode !!!

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    doesnt bitcomet use mainline dht too? azureus uses its own dht.
    im using µtorrent on windows and i like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleer
    doesnt bitcomet use mainline dht too?
    Yes, I think so. But it "feels" like it's working better... I get more sources and higher speed faster on BitComet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragosani
    µTorrent is good... very good. It doesn't have as many features as BitComet, but what it does do it does well. It also uses hardly any memory or CPU time and is as stable as a rock.
    I quite agree with your statement but I have also found µTorrent to be slower then BitComet no matter how I tweak it. I am on dsl 512/256 and on BitComet I can max out d/l at 50+ kB/sec within minutes whereas on µTorrent I can only reach 35+ kB/sec. And I practically ran BitComet without touching any of its default settings.

    Actually I am very qualified to make my observations as I am on an ultrafast Pentium II 200mhz pc with a huge amount of ram(32mb) running win98SE. So if I tell you BitComet is good then you can take my word for it!


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    µtorrent works and doesn't take alot ram. bitcomet is getting more and more bans from private trackers bechose its dht. bitcomet doesnt care if there is private flag it adds dht for that torrent anyway if tracker is offline for bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafi_d
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    You forgot one thing:
    BitComet still has the best file selection system. It's the only one that lets you choose the files before you start downloading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTO
    Quote Originally Posted by rafi_d
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    You forgot one thing:
    BitComet still has the best file selection system. It's the only one that lets you choose the files before you start downloading.
    Partially right... uT does not have to auto-start downloading . You do press the "go" first. So you can easily - un-select any file you like in the "files" tab before that

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    Very informative...

    I guess I'll still be using BC for a while until it matures, I download Chinese files too and there are a lot of BC users, so I think I'm going to stick with BC for a while for faster speed. And I hate to do new configurations for µtorrent because I'm lazy. Plus, I don't use private tracker for the moment.

    rafi_d: Thanks for your post. I have a 5/6 year old PIII running W98 too, I run both BC and eMule on it and no major problems. Now, I mostly use my new Pentium D for downloading.

    p.s. µtorrent 1.3 is out now - support for unicode

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    The first Torrent client I ever used was BitTornado(then Shad0ws experimental client). Then I switched to Torrent Storm. Shortly after I decided I wanted to make my own torrents. I hated finding a tracker, so I switched to Azureus. Azureus was great cause of the built in tracker. But I then got tired of making my own torrents. So I didn't need Azureus anymore. I switched back to BitTornado. But then the DHT showed up in Azureus, the official bitTorrent client and Bitcomet. I knew Azureus was a resource hog. And since BitComet and the Official client were sharing 1 network, I decided BitComet had the best DHT.

    Then along came utorrent. Its just too small to pass up. And now thatBitComet is banned in so many places, uTorrent is my client of choice.
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    [quote=rafi_d]
    Quote Originally Posted by RTO
    Quote Originally Posted by "rafi_d":3a19f
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    You forgot one thing:
    BitComet still has the best file selection system. It's the only one that lets you choose the files before you start downloading.
    Partially right... uT does not have to auto-start downloading . You do press the "go" first. So you can easily - un-select any file you like in the "files" tab before that [/quote:3a19f]

    Now that is interesting....was going to be a little critical of utorrent before I read this.

    Because of the DHT issues I guess many others will move from bitcomet to utorrent.

    I liked bitcomet and didn't find the preferences too difficult to understand...lots of help around too. Can't really say the same about utorrent yet. Had problems with slow speeds to start but messed around a bit and now it seems ok....probably more luck than judgement. The official site was not really much help and neither was the utorrent forum.

    Might it be worth adding a forum here.

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    they already have forum. http://forum.utorrent.com/index.php
    and comparing µtorrent faq http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php
    to bitcomet faq http://www.bitcomet.com/doc/faq.htm

    you could also wisit their irc chan #utorrent
    some differences...

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    yes the way you can select just certain files from a torrent in bitcomet, is by far the best implementation of selective dl-ing i have seen in any client. and it's also the main feature that has me sticking with bitcomet. also very important to me is that bitcomet actually reserves space on the disk for only the selected files, unlike utorrent or azureus that reserve space for the complete torrent even if you selected just 1 small file out of a 100 (why do i need 1 or several gigs of disk space taken up if all i want is an .nfo or a .jpg from the torrent - i really hate azureus and utorrent because of this).

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